I work for an ISP, and this is a common practice among my peers
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tychosmoose@lemm.ee 1 week ago
How about creating your own LAN within the untrusted network?
Something like an inexpensive OpenWRT router would do fine. Connect all your devices and the server to the router. They are now on a trusted network. Set up Wireguard on the OpenWRT router to connect to Proton so that your outbound traffic from all your devices is secured.
Infynis@midwest.social 1 week ago
TDCN@feddit.dk 1 week ago
I have done this before as well when living in a dorm where wifi was shit so i did my own little setup in my room so I could stream to Crome cast etc on my own trusted lan. Get a small router with support for wire Guard vpn (i love mikrotik for this) and you have an easy way to tunnel out for all your devices.
Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Hey, this is off topic from the original post but could you tell me what device specifically you have used?
I am going to be moving into a dorm soon and was looking to set up my own VLAN or ehatever you need for a private network because I don’t want to mess with the dorm router. I had a look at a Mikrotik switch (CRS310) but was unsure whether the fan noise would be too loud if I am staying in the same room and more importantly, whether this even allows me to do what I want to do
tychosmoose@lemm.ee 1 week ago
That isn’t what I would choose for your situation. CRS3xx switches are fast at switching (layer 1 & 2), but not as a NAT router, which you probably need.
Better to pick something from the Mikrotik Ethernet Routers range, assuming you don’t want your personal LAN to have WiFi. The L009 or basic RB5009 are both good options in the same price range. Choosing depends on your upstream connection speed. Both are fanless.
Or pick a Home/Office Wireless device if you are permitted to have your own WiFi access point. The hAP ax2 is small, affordable and performs well at 1Gbps. If your upstream connection is 1Gpbs this is probably what I would choose even if you don’t want WiFi as long as this is enough ports. Just turn off its WiFi radios to use it wired-only. If you have a 2.5Gbps upstream port then hAP ax3 is a better choice.
All the Mikrotik choices will require some learning if you want anything beyond a basic router configuration. But once you get it like you want it they are very solid and reliable.
OpenWRT and OPNSense are easier to jump into without a lot of effort, so if you don’t want a networking hobby I would use one of them. Pick up pre installed device if you want it easy. Or get a mini PC with a few network ports and install the OS yourself to get more power for the money.
Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Wow, that was a lot more comprehensive than what I was hoping for. Thanks.
I was particularly interested in the CRS310 because it had 2.5G ports with the ability to eventually later even expand into 10G. 10G speeds aren’t really relevant for me (for now) since I mainly want the speed advantage for slightly faster transfers to my NAS but I would be interested in 2.5G capability. Do you think it makes sense to pick one of the devices you recommended, specifically the hAP ax2 and then if I want to get into 2.5G territory to buy an unmanaged 2.5G switch? Speeds of 2.5G and more are only interesting for transfers between my own local devices for me. I don’t need the rest of the network to have fast access so I guess the hAP ax2 makes more sense to buy than ax3. The ability to open my own WiFi network is also quite attractive so I can have local access even from my laptop or phone which I guess is another point in favor of the Home/Office AP route.
TDCN@feddit.dk 1 week ago
It can be a good idea to mentatlly seperate your router needs with you 2.5G speeds and WiFi needs, they dont have to live on the same device. For you private lan you need a router so you can hide and control your devices behind NAT and firewall. For that I’d just recommended one of the small hap or hax devices that suits your needs for routing, and/or wifi. If you want to be fancy the RB9005U could maybe work with your switching need as well.
You don’t need Vlan. I believe it is not what you think it is. Vlan is if you want to segregated your own lan int to different independent lans with various firewall rules.
All you need for your dorm is NAT. But for the love of god make sure that you dont connect your lan with the dorm lan or your DHCP server will start handing out IP’s to everyone else in your dorm and it will crash the dorm router. The ethernet jack in the wall of your dorm (I assume that’s how it works for you) needs to go to the WAN port of the router. But bare in mind on mikrotik you can configure the WAN port to be any physical port you want, but with default config it is port 1.
Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
I may have misused the word dorm. It is a shared appartment rented with a couple other students.
My goal is basically to set up a private network inside the network used by the other people I share the apartment with so I can tinker with stuff like setting my own DNS server up for the network without possibly impacting the other people in case of failure. My naive impression was that I would need to use a VLAN to accomplish that.
In regards to your idea of using multiple devices I kind of agree but I want to keep the initial cost and energy usage low for now which is why I am trying to find a device I can use for this but also reuse in the future for something else if I want to upgrade (or just retire it without too much sunk cost).
non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I was looking for this. Op seems to be obsessed with “zero trust”, so creating a trusted area for this stuff would be an easy win.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Exactly! I did that for a couple years until I found a cheap modem to replace the ISP modem. It didn’t do any routing, so there was no weird NAT issue, it just converted the DSL signal to Ethernet with a WAN IP.
I didn’t have to change any network settings on my LAN when I switched, or when I moved to another place with a different ISP.