You also need to include a 60w power adapter.
Comment on Framework Laptop 12 is now available for pre-order for €569 and up (but not in the US)
narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Keep in mind that the 569,-€ is for the DIY edition and does not include RAM, SSD (2230 form factor) and expansion cards. So assuming you’re starting with nothing the cheapest price would be about this:
- Framework Laptop 12 569,-€
- 8 GB DDR5-5600 22,-€
- 256 GB M.2 2230 SSD 34,-€
- 4 expansion cards, ex. 2 USB-C, 2 USB-A 40,-€ (other cards are more expensive)
So about 665,-€ at current pricing from Germany, not including individual shipping costs of the RAM and SSD. If you require/want Windows then that would need to be factored in as well.
Obviously quite a bit cheaper compared to the 13, but I doubt this will impact the education market that this is supposed to target (unless edu gets steep discounts).
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 days ago
TBi@lemmy.world 6 days ago
You can BYO…
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Of course. But the comment above says if you start from nothing.
TBi@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Yes, but most people are more likely to have a USB-C power adapter lying around than an SSD or RAM.
devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] 6 days ago
Many people have 60 and 100w usbc adapters already. I know I do.
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
This would make one hell of an impact at my school in Australia, our school sells shitty cheap laptops for $1200 AUD (around €723), but the licenses for software are provided by the government and the laptops tend to cost less than half the school sells them for, so the framework laptop 12 would definitely be preferable, including with the add-ons you mentioned.
A little sidenote, I have no clue how it’s legal for the school to price gouge us like that for literally the cheapest ThinkPads or other laptops possible.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Is it a form of funding for the school? Or are they getting ripped off too?
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
At the campus I’m currently at, it’s funded pretty well, we have good quality buildings, we have doctors that come in every couple days and have “chillout tuesday” where we have activities and free food in the seminar room. The other two campuses are definitely falling behind in those regards.
Either they may not be getting enough from the government and are supplementing it, or they are getting ripped off by Lenovo, although it seems to be due funding the school, since there are also the out for uniform days, where you have to pay $10 unless you don’t want to participate for the rest of the year.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 week ago
Uhm, what gpu?
Cort@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Intel had graphics on either a 1315u or 1334u processor
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 days ago
Do the two actually have different GPUs?
“UHD” vs “Iris Xe”?
The MSRP on Intels page for the two CPU options is way closer than the difference on Frameworks preorder page.
Cort@lemmy.world 6 days ago
64 execution units on hd vs 80 on xe. Can’t tell if they’re different architectures tho
Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 days ago
More powerful i5 with 32GM RAM and a bunch of expansion cards amounted to about 1200€. A bit more than similarly specked 15-17 laptops, but preliminary I couldn’t find anything with this speks in this formfactor, so I couldn’t compare properly.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 week ago
The point of the DIY edition is that you could just reuse some old RAM or SSDs. Maybe another $50 for a good set. Then they sell refurbished expansion cards (that are currently out of stock) for $34.
486@lemmy.world 6 days ago
In theory, yes. I don’t think it is very likely that people have DDR5 SO-DIMM modules lying around, let alone 2230 SSDs. I don’t understand why they weren’t able to go for the way more common 2280 form factor for the SSD at least.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Some people have dead laptops with fried motherboards or dead batteries, or cracked screens, that are absolutely unrepeatable but have memory and alive ssds. I know I do.
486@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Sure, I’m not saying this never happens, but I’d argue this is the exception not the rule. Especially when it comes to DDR5 which is still quite new, so there should not be that many laptops with dead batteries with such memory around yet. It would be a different story with DDR4, not that I would suggest that they use DDR4. And the SSD form factor they used isn’t very common, so it is probably even less likely that people have such SSDs lying around. I still appreciate that they allow me to buy the machine without memory/storage.
Ulrich@feddit.org 6 days ago
You can buy them…?