Comment on Best starter hands-down

Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• Landless2029@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yeap. I picked the grass turtle to cheese Brock and Misty fights. He can also learn cut.

  Then caught the lowest level magicarp I could find to slot 1. Gyarados with surf.

  Had maxed Gyarados for the Gary Chameleon.

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• zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Starters were secretly difficulty setting. Bulb easy, squirt medium, char hard

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• mormund@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Never really played Pokemon, but I thought Charmander is the meta pick because the low level stuff is all mostly weak to fire?

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  • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The first couple of gyms in Gen 1 are actually really good for Bulbasaur, and getting a strong early game is typically what you want from a starter as mid to late game you’ll have access to a bunch of other 'mons to cover what types you need.

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  • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The first gym is rock, the second is water, the third is electric. Charmander has a really hard time in those first two matchups and only hits neutral in the third. At this stage of the game, it’s really difficult to fill out your types because the wild Pokémon are largely birds, bugs, and rats.
    If you’re really lucky, you’ll hit the extremely low encounter rate for Pikachu in Viridian Forest, and if you’re even luckier, you’ll catch one. But that only helps you against Misty.

    In contrast, Bulbasaur is super effective against the first two gyms, and is merely neutral against Lt. Surge and his electric mice.
    And by that point you’ve fed two whole gyms full of trainers and gym leaders into your Bulbasaur (by virtue of not having to constantly rotate through your back line just to survive).
    Which means it can both take a beating and lay a smackdown in what is on its face a “neutral matchup”.

    After that point the game opens up dramatically and that initial advantage fades.

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    • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      In contrast, bulbasaur is weak to all the birds and bugs that are so common in the early game.

      To make it more difficult, Bulbasaur is the only one of the three starters to not learn a STAB move as their first move after the debuff at 5.

      Squirtle gets bubble, ember for Charmander. Leech seed for Bulbasaur. And while leech seed has uses late game when you’re tanky, it is mostly useless against wild pokémon.

      That is to say, both Charmander and Bulbasaur have a lot of trouble early game until you get a diverse team. But Squirtle will just stomp through it all (especially in original Gen1 when Special was imba, combined with its natural high defence state).

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• KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Duuuude I forgot what a big deal it was that he had fucking guns! Haha

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