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brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

One thing that’s turning me off, is the, uh… political requirements of much of the space.

By that I mean stuff like “Elon Musk should commit suicide” or “X group of people are all mentally retarded” comments in top posts, or even popular posts themselves.

It feels toxic like X. Or what Voat (an older Reddit clone, albeit not a federated one) turned into, albeit at the opposite side of the political spectrum, hence no one contributed to non-political niches and the site died in toxicity.

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gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
people are very emotional rn because of everything that’s happening but i agree with you that violence for it’s own sake is never good. the discussion must stay positive.

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ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
It may not do much depending on the mods/admins, but it never hurts to report and downvote comments or posts like that.

Emphasis on reporting there, as I think sometimes that stuff lingers around because people have made a habit of only downvoting and blocking those doing that regularly. I realize in your examples it’s more likely bias or bigotry respectively, but still.

Report first, then downvote and block. Doing only the latter only makes your experience a little better, the former may help the community.

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- brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I do report them, but some communities seem to encourage it and leave it up.
  
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Cris_Color@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I can definitely understand that. I think in a lot of ways that problem is driven by how much of a political echo chamber lemmy is. Any time there’s a narower range of beliefs I feel like you can see those beliefs getting more extreme, or expressed in more extreme and toxic ways.

I honestly don’t really know how to improve it given the state of the world. It feels like the range of political beliefs keeps getting compressed into two groups and it makes it harder and harder to tolerate the beliefs of those further from yourself. And for valid reasons.

And the more justified the contempt for people of other political views gets the harder it gets to figure out how, culturally, we manage the justified anger that comes from how deeply broken everything is.

Elon musk is doing actual literal Nazi salutes and peoples anger about that is justified. And at the same time I’m not sure what way of acting on that anger (and acting on the problem) yields anything other than radializing people teetering on the edge of extremism.

I’m glad I don’t really see actual Nazis on lemmy. Its nice that there’s less debate about the legitimacy of people’s humanity.

And at the same time anger is deeply toxic to healthy interaction and drives behaviors that I genuinely don’t think make the problems prompting people’s anger any better.

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- brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yeah don’t get me wrong, I love Lemmy. But I don’t like, well, that sort of thing. Or straight up disinformation being posted along the lines of that vitriol. It makes me worry about the Fediverse, as that culture only goes one place.
  
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  - Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Great comment
    
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