You’re right. If I don’t buy cheap shit, I won’t get cheap shit. And since “made in China” is a byword for cheap shit, I try to avoid Chinese products.
My home was made in America. My car was assembled in America, and afaik, most of the parts came from Mexico and Japan. My microwave is Japanese. My shirt is from Taiwan. My computer is made from a ton of chips, Taiwan chip fabs. My tools are all made in America. I can go on.
Very little of what I have was made in China. Because China makes “cheap shit”. Your words, not mine.
You are about 20 years too late for any of this to make sense. China tech is on par with other countries now. It is still lower cost for bad reasons alot of the time, but good quality tech is readily available now. You don’t have to go very far up from the absolute cheapest unit price to get to the quality either, but of course, it’s the American way to always seek out the absolute cheapest product, quality be damned.
A “made in America” sticker also does not carry the meaning it used to 20 years ago either. You can get some of the shittiest cheap stuff “made in America”, it just won’t be the cheapest shitty stuff, despite being made locally to you, since the company still needs to make sure they are infinitely increasing profits forever…
Your phone was made in China. Most if the components were manufactured in Taiwan. Same goes for every chip in your car, and very likely for you Japanese microwave.
None of those chips for your computer, your phone, or your car were made in the US, and thanks to Lil Donnie’s tantrum against the CHIPS act, none of them ever will be.
I sincerely doubt that. And last I checked, most chip fabs were not in China. There’s a lot in South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. And there’s plenty in damn near every western country. Even the Netherlands has a few.
You need to realize that countries other than China have industry.
Nearly every company in the world that has an international presence uses chinese parts somewhere. And no, you racist count, made in china is not a word for cheap shit, it’s a word for made in a factory. You can’t avoid chinese products at this stage of capitalism. Your made in japan microwave? It was assembled in japan. It was made in china hence why you can get the brand less version for half price on aliexpress.
Country labeling is a joke, wherever the final assembly takes place is where the label gets put on, specially because racists like you are too stupid to tell the difference and it sincerely hasn’t mattered since before most people were born.
And you are stupid for not acknowledging that people from other countries are not just useless consumers without any agency. Americans and Europeans have industry too, and very productive ones. The narrative that you can trace any product back to China is entirely wrong and reeks of tankie.
The west has spent a half century outsourcing their industry to feel like they’ve done any environmental work (and to lower wages). That has affected all industries, in all western countries.
Ever use anything with a pcb? Congrats it was partially made in china. Any industrial electrical components? Any microelectronics for non computational work? Hell most steel fab is in china. Half the us’s packaged fruit travels through china for packaging.
Your owners and masters have spent a long time ruining domestic companies for the sake of profit. Don’t take that out on chinese people, take it out on your owners and masters.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
You’re right. If I don’t buy cheap shit, I won’t get cheap shit. And since “made in China” is a byword for cheap shit, I try to avoid Chinese products.
My home was made in America. My car was assembled in America, and afaik, most of the parts came from Mexico and Japan. My microwave is Japanese. My shirt is from Taiwan. My computer is made from a ton of chips, Taiwan chip fabs. My tools are all made in America. I can go on.
Very little of what I have was made in China. Because China makes “cheap shit”. Your words, not mine.
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You are about 20 years too late for any of this to make sense. China tech is on par with other countries now. It is still lower cost for bad reasons alot of the time, but good quality tech is readily available now. You don’t have to go very far up from the absolute cheapest unit price to get to the quality either, but of course, it’s the American way to always seek out the absolute cheapest product, quality be damned.
A “made in America” sticker also does not carry the meaning it used to 20 years ago either. You can get some of the shittiest cheap stuff “made in America”, it just won’t be the cheapest shitty stuff, despite being made locally to you, since the company still needs to make sure they are infinitely increasing profits forever…
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The propaganda campaign for chinese goods not being scams just started this week dude, give it time and I’m sure the west will fall
Aphelion@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Your phone was made in China. Most if the components were manufactured in Taiwan. Same goes for every chip in your car, and very likely for you Japanese microwave.
None of those chips for your computer, your phone, or your car were made in the US, and thanks to Lil Donnie’s tantrum against the CHIPS act, none of them ever will be.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
My phone was made in Vietnam. And last I checked, Taiwan is not part of China.
krebssteven@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You cannot be that ignorant. ‘Made in X’ in a such globalized and distributed economy is nothing but a matter of tax design.
Aphelion@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Yes, they are different countries, and they will continue to be the countries that make the tech products you buy at an inflated, tariffed rate.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
I sincerely doubt that. And last I checked, most chip fabs were not in China. There’s a lot in South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. And there’s plenty in damn near every western country. Even the Netherlands has a few.
You need to realize that countries other than China have industry.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Nearly every company in the world that has an international presence uses chinese parts somewhere. And no, you racist count, made in china is not a word for cheap shit, it’s a word for made in a factory. You can’t avoid chinese products at this stage of capitalism. Your made in japan microwave? It was assembled in japan. It was made in china hence why you can get the brand less version for half price on aliexpress.
Country labeling is a joke, wherever the final assembly takes place is where the label gets put on, specially because racists like you are too stupid to tell the difference and it sincerely hasn’t mattered since before most people were born.
ricdeh@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And you are stupid for not acknowledging that people from other countries are not just useless consumers without any agency. Americans and Europeans have industry too, and very productive ones. The narrative that you can trace any product back to China is entirely wrong and reeks of tankie.
yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
The west has spent a half century outsourcing their industry to feel like they’ve done any environmental work (and to lower wages). That has affected all industries, in all western countries.
Ever use anything with a pcb? Congrats it was partially made in china. Any industrial electrical components? Any microelectronics for non computational work? Hell most steel fab is in china. Half the us’s packaged fruit travels through china for packaging.
Your owners and masters have spent a long time ruining domestic companies for the sake of profit. Don’t take that out on chinese people, take it out on your owners and masters.