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Comment on Trump says U.S. will 'get Greenland,' military force may not be needed but not ruled out
HorreC@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Wouldnt this take an act from the house, he cant just declare war with out a 3/4th majority. My USA law is rough but I thought presidential powers only allowed for actions in retaliation but starting shit took the whole of the nations law makers.
Photuris@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
HorreC@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No I dont think that but they would have to show their hand and the sheep wouldnt have a leg to stand on but just say hey we are ganna go ahead and do a hitler.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
While that’s true, they don’t care. At this point, MAGA types openly don’t care about consistency, don’t care that they’re doing a Hitler, don’t care that they’re shredding the constitution, and these Scooby-Doo ass moments of thinking the mask off and saying “a ha, so you WERE Hitler all along!” don’t matter one bit. What matters is consequences, and so far, there have been none.
Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 4 weeks ago
They don’t have to define it as a war. Previous administrations have opened the route of not declaring war but still engaging in boots on the ground assaults. The precedent has been set, long before he entered office, and reinforced by every modern president.
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
There are no rules anymore.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
I recall Prez can deploy troops for up to 100 days or some bs. I remember my elementary teacher saying its rare congress wouldn’t extend operation.
HorreC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I get some of that, but isnt that is response, I didnt think they had the right to start war with another country that was peaceful to them
Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.
Pretty sure this what I was thinking of.
HorreC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
WOW, they can just commit to war and they have to show no reason at all. That needs to be changed.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
While it does take an act of congress to declare a war, the US has deployed troops, at the direction of the president, in all sorts of engagements for decades without declaring war. The last time Congress declared war was WW2. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so much more were directed by the president.
HorreC@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
But I thought if there was no reason (I.E. greenland isnt doing shit) does the pres still get authority to start a territory takeover (also I thought all states or commonwelths had to vote to enter into the USA).
socialmedia@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The US has a track record of manufactured reasons to invade a country. Look for some incident in the near future which the US blames on Greenland.
HorreC@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It would still take the house to back it no? Unless they have like look Greenland is blowing up our ships and then everyone would know it for the sham it is, and I would assume if not NATO but EURO would back Greenland in its defense.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I mean, that’s what this and every time you see a conservative on TV talking about Greenland are doing, they’re greasing the wheels before the proverbial weapons of mass destruction card gets played.