Comment on OpenAI's move to allow generating "Ghibly stlye" images isn't just a cute PR stunt. It is an expression of dominance and the will to reject and refuse democratic values. It is a display of power

• lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Are we pretending this is new & their opinion matters in some new way it hasn’t before?

  There might be an argument to demand licensing royalties. Is that too capitalist? Maybe it’s fine if we work that into the word fascism somehow, wear it out a bit more to hit that sweet spot. Ooh.

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  • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No. We’re acting as if their opinion always mattered just as much as it does now.

    While your style is not, can not, and should not be your intellectual property, you should have the right to say “I don’t want you to imitate my exact style” and people should respect that.

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    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We’re acting as if their opinion always mattered just as much as it does now.

      So not at all: gotcha.

      you should have the right to say “I don’t want you to imitate my exact style”

      You do.

      people should respect that

      “That’s just like your opinion, man.” meme goes here.

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      • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So, to recap, your position is this:

        Artists do not deserve the respect that would allow them to be creative unfettered. Gotcha.

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• LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As an artist, when people imitate me, I take it as flattery.

  When a machine imitates me, I take it as an insult to life itself.

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  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When a machine imitates me, I take it as an insult to life itself.

    I might be flattered that someone bothered to make a machine do that. Massaging software to do that also takes skill?

    When GitHub Copilot lifts my opensource code, I’m not offended. I only cringe a bit when it’s bad code I regret committing.

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  • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I take it as flattery

    I respect your position, and I appreciate people who are willing to share their creativity in an inspiring way like that.

    However, others don’t see it as flattery. Particularly in eastern cultures, it is seen as mockery or plagiarism. You can choose to disagree about why they don’t want you to imitate their style, but you should always respect the request.

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    • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If eastern cultures don’t like imitation, why are there a million identical isekai light novels with an average joe who dies, reincarnates in a slightly altered Dungeons and Dragons world, and gets a harem of women with huge breasts whose personalities are taken straight from TVtropes?

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      • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because humans suck?

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  • Jsegfeh@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is an absolutely rational take.

    Individual, noncommercial imitation is flattery.

    LLM ripoff is exactly that.

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