I mean, there has always been a correlation between being technical (as in profession/skills) and being paranoid about technology. When you are in the field, you get a window into how ignorant most of the tech products are security-wise for example. And I guess a good portion of 3d printing people, especially the ones on lemmy are technical (as in profession/skills), not/not only tech lovers.
violentfart@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well done, and I’m surprised at all the technophobes in a 3d printing community.
KexPilot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Considering a lock is lockable in a few seconds, what’s the security risk? A lot of these locks even do t have keys, so you’re removing a very easy and common vulnerability.
Most people just don’t actually think for themselves is the issue.
KexPilot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t want to argue against what you are saying, it might very well be true, but my comment is about tech people being “paranoid” about tech due to experience. (At least in my country) people are familiar with a few very good quality traditional lock brands that are harder to pick, and that’s all you need, criminals don’t just go around kicking in doors and windows here. Threat model is the keyword I guess. But I’m not naive, the same will be true for consumer grade electronic locks at some point, the good quality, proven brands will be common knowledge sooner or later I guess and outweight the paranoia.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Sometimes IOT devices don’t make rational sense to install. This is up there with “smart” lightbulbs in terms of creating a vulnerability through convenience.
When I 3d print a plastic phone mount for my bike, that doesn’t make the base bike any easier to steal. This does.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Do you now know how incredibly easy it is to pick a lock?
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yes. Being a script kiddie is still much easier.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
…. Than you have absolutely zero concept about how easy it is to break into a regular deadbolt. It’s not easier than coding. Using a bump key requires zero skill.
axolotl_cpp@feddit.it@feddit.it 2 weeks ago Lockpicking a door is so fucking easy that the biggest vulnerability here is the lock itself probably, you need way more skills to hack the electronic part than to lockpick the door
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Downloading an RFID/NFC spoofer app and loading a script from github?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Only cheap ass locks use unprotected NFC/RFID. Like your debit card also uses NFC. Can you clone a debit card or make a payment with a spoofer app? no you can’t.
- axolotl_cpp@feddit.it@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
RFID is not something you will hack with a phone app and anyway you need to know what values the RFID/NFC reader on the other side wants and that’s if the the lock has NFC or RFID technologies and not something else
thehatfox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago At this point I’m quite heavily invested in smart home tech, but smart locks are one of the few things I haven’t touched.
Any exploit found in these devices could be packaged into a smartphone app and easily accessed by anyone. Someone hacking the lock that way would look no different to a legitimate user. Firmware updates for these devices seem sporadic at best.
It’s a security concern I don’t want to have to worry about, even if there are convenience benefits.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Any exploit found in these devices could be packaged into a smartphone app and easily accessed by anyone.
Anyone can also buy lockpicks, break a window, kick the door down.
Handing it would require technology and skills not everyone has, there’s easier ways to get on your house than to hack it. If that’s your worry, than you better not use your deadbolt at all. It can be picked in seconds.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
You can buy keypad entry deadbolts that don’t connect to external wireless devices. I find they’re a good compromise between convenience and security.
BevsDad@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago So long as it has a physical backup and can stay on my network I’m happy. I also need low power draw to stay bellow my 20w idle power budget but that’s a me problem.
If anyone has a vertically mounted stainless steel option with a keypad to recommend I’m all ears!
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Yea its weird. I think its the AI and Data center hate. I am as local as I can be for my stuff and AI free. 99% of my stuff is Home Assistant, ESPhome, and Zigwave.