Comment on [Discussion] What would it take to selfhost some of the backend that Tesla's connect to?

• poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I have some bad news for you - any random idiot with a driver’s license and a two-ton death machine already puts your ass at risk, all the time. We call it “traffic” because we’ve just gotten used to it

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  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m talking ‘I disabled the awareness requirement of autopilot’ or ‘I fucked with the object detection and here goes my beta test yolo’ or ‘I added a button to disable all the lights so I can covertly street race’ or…

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    • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And? People can already do this with most cars.

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s a difference between ‘physical work required’ and ‘plug in this dongle and run the exe’ though

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    • nBodyProblem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Have you never heard of tunes?

      Any idiot can make substantial software changes to almost any modern car with easily available inexpensive hardware. Look up Cobb, ECUtek, openflashtablet, Hondata, etc

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        See above nested comment; tune aren’t inherently a safety concern.

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    • MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Imagine thinking Tesla has all-that-much in place to prevent those things in a stock configuration. Full-stop, any self-driving is one of the first features anyone trying to disconnect their cars from Tesla servers would lose outright.

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      • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ehh doubt, but I don’t have a tesla to verify. If I can sever the connection to the home base, I can fuck with it however I want, and their kill switch is useless. Maybe they implemented the kill switch in the modem or something, but again I can’t test. I highly doubt that when you’re road-tripping in bumfuck nowhere the ap disables itself…

        Anybody want to give me $40k? We can be besties.

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  • thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It is not comparable, not even by far.

    Assuming your are not a psycho, to safely drive a car is orders of magnitude (in plural) easier than modifying the Sw in a safe and deterministic way.

    It is not only that bad people exists, it is about that making a small mistake can kill you

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• OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  People fuck with two ton rolling death machines every day. What are mechanics? What are car enthusiasts? You just have accepted that you can’t touch the computer because they told you you can’t. That’s stupid.

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  • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    See above nested comment

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• Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nothing has stopped people with ice vehicles.

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