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Comment on Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

salacious_coaster@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Hot take from an IT guy: save your important data, make a plain vanilla W11 boot USB (nothing fancy, no Rufus tricks), wipe your hard drive to zeroes, and install W11 like normal. I’ve reimaged a ton of older PCs and literally never seen it not work. My 10 year old Optiplex, supposedly ineligible for W11, runs W11 just fine.

Microsoft might someday break it, sure. That’s not new. Microsoft products were always, in practice, available to us at Microsoft’s pleasure. This is the same company that allows massgrave to exist on git because they’d rather we pirate MS Office than allow LibreOffice any oxygen. We’ll probably be fine.

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Polderviking@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Also IT guy. Hot take indeed. I’ve done this but won’t support this. I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you’ve done this for will need your help, all at the same time.

I’m using this opportunity to expand Linux market share.

Most people only use browser. People that ask me about Windows 10 eol get pushed towards Linux.

Only if they need stuff that won’t work on Linux or they really really want Windows to use Chrome or Firefox on for some reason I’ll recommend complying with Microsoft’s hubris.

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- TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m imagining me doing this to my building of elderly, it dies and then opening my eyes to 40 work orders. Lmao
  
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  - domi@lemmy.secnd.me ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Why not install Linux for them once Windows 10 is dead?
    
    They are a prime candidate for a dead simple Linux distro with the “Web”, “Mail” and “Documents” shortcuts on the desktop and nothing else. Can’t get a virus, can’t get scammed by fake Microsoft support and most won’t even notice.
    
    I have installed Fedora Kinoite for my mom and have had zero complaints.
    
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    TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s on the to do list for sure. Currently getting them off their external antivirus’ is a challenge.
    
    Most are in their 80s. Think it’ll be next generation honestly. Some dont even have phones or email addresses.
    
    Had one who got a Chromebook and was just at a loss. Tbf that was an ass Chromebook but that was still too much for her.
    
    Most have ollllld computers that are hitting the hardware failure stage. I’ve seen a god damn Vista machine at work.
    
    I’m gonna convert someone. Just finding someone who is aware of what a tab in a browser is a rare occurrence currently lol
    
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- salacious_coaster@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  I will almost guarantee some update will break shit at the most inconvenient time humanly possible and the people you’ve done this for will need your help, all at the same time.
  
  Well, yeah. That’s life as an admin under the best circumstances. There’s a running list of Windows ticking time bombs over on r/sysadmin. There are lots of good reasons to ditch Windows, but I wouldn’t say the risk of MS shutting down technically unsupported hardware is one of them (because I don’t agree it’s a substantial risk).
  
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  - Polderviking@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Well, yeah. That’s life as an admin under the best circumstances. I don’t disagree, but I don’t see the reason in tempting this to happen.
    
    I think it’s interesting you’re not convinced it’s a reasonable risk. I’ve had updates break things on clients under my control on several occasions, particularly post Windows 7 with the bigger feature releases.
    
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