Comment on Young Americans lose trust in the state

finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  What does that have to do with it? The data says young people are unhappy, it doesn’t say they are unhappy about the same things. You’re not considering that other people have differing viewpoints than you. I’m sure for Trump voters, the unhappiness is, from their viewpoint, caused by things “the left” is doing. They aren’t unhappy about things he’s been doing.

  And while liberals and especially leftists might be unhappy with the government now, conservatives have been unhappy with the general move towards progressive policies for decades. They distrusted the government for much longer than Trump has been president, and they don’t see him or his stooges as being a part of that government either.

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  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If they’re young then they’re probably not politically active past the last two election cycles. My point is that people got what they voted for, to not trust in the system that gives them exactly what they chose is silly if nothing else.

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    • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And my point is that you’ve totally misunderstood their viewpoint. They don’t see Trump as the government, and I would have assumed that the whole “deep state” bullshit would have clued you in to that fact. To them, Trump isn’t part of the government, he’s the one tackling the government as their hero.

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  • Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If young people are “losing hope in the state” but happy with Trump, COVID fucked up their brains and development fucking completely

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• Godric@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  To be fair, Kamala’s “outreach” to young men can be summed up by “vote for the women you know”.

  Believe it or not, arguing “vote on some else’s behalf” isn’t a winning strategy.

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’ve said this before, or tried to.

    Official Democratic party policy is pro-business, pro-stock market, pro Nancy Pelosi’s portfolio. In the parallel universe where Kamala won, inflation and slowly tightening corporate policies are slowly pressing Americans to death, we’re not in a bullshit trade war with Canada, exactly the same number of Palestinians are being killed, absolutely nothing is being done to address healthcare, reproductive rights, gun crime, poverty, disease, the environment, net neutrality or basically anything of that nature.

    Official Democratic party messaging is “At least we’re not the Republicans.” Which means less and less as time goes on. They’ve got no progressive policies. No one in this nation I think is rabidly pro-Democrat. There are a few that are rabidly anti-Republican.

    How many times have I seen this conversation play out: “The Democrats need to reach out to moderate Republicans.” “NO, they need to move to the left!” No, the Democrats need to reach out to the majority of Americans. Which is going to mean actually appealing to men. Which they currently DO. NOT.

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• TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  People voted Trump in 2016 because of the same mistrust of the government. They probably keep the narrative.

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  • Quadhammer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    When the insurrection happened all I could think was “I dont disagree with insurrection i disagree that they’re doing it for mango mussolini”

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