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Everyone’s praising this don’t understand that this request is basically impossible and is merely posturing.

I’m a developer and I work a lot with LLM data and the only way to detect LLM text is through watermarks where some words or expressions are statistically preferred over others. This means it’s only effective on large bodies of text that are not modified further.

If you take LLM content and remix it using traditional natural language processing then it’s done - the content is indistinguishable and untraceable and it takes like 50 lines of python code and a few milliseconds of computing.

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GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
A government policy isn’t just posturing because the state now has a rule to cite if they’re gonna issue you a fine or whatever the punishment is supposed to be. So you will either comply, or go underground or abroad. That’s a real consequence.

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- drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  So it’s just another way for authoritarians to exert power over people then?
  
  The only way to address AI is through low level laws we already have like anti-discrimination, defamation, online bullying etc. But those give people more rights and protections and you can’t have that.
  
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  - Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    it’s just another way for authoritarians to exert power over people then?
    
    exert power over people to stop them from doing what?
    
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  - GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I mean you can just say that about any and every law or policy. No need to be so knee-jerk about it. The point I’m making is it isn’t just posturing. It’s not like a company pretending to promise to watermark their AI outputs; it’s a government saying you must comply with new rule.
    
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  100% thats exactly what’s happening and I can’t believe people are so blinded by AI generato hate to praise stuff like that.
  
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qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s impossible because the text these LLM-based models produce would be obtuse to watermark.

Huh?

What about photos and video and audio?! Why are you asking?

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- drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  What about photos, videos and audio? You should see what the second L means in the LLM before you go at it
  
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  - NikkiDimes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    The directive includes all types of data: text, images, videos, audio, and even virtual scenes.
    
    LLMs are only one aspect of this, but yeah, probably the most difficult to discern, at least at the moment.
    
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  - qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You should read some of the content you’re commenting on before posting a critique.
    
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melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I would love to delve into this a little more.

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