Comment on Chinese EV maker BYD says new fast-charging system could be as quick as filling up a tank

fieryhamster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  biden basically did that already. ever noticed there are no byds on the road in the us?

  i seem to recall it wasn’t an outright ban, but unreasonable tariffs on chinese evs specifically. a soft ban, but enough to be as effective.

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  • Mihies@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The official reason for tariffs is government subsidy AFAIK, but in reality the moment they lower the tariffs, US and EU automobile industry is done.

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    • Enelop@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The heavy subsidy by the Chinese government is the reason they would dominate though. The tariffs won’t ever be lifted unless they stop manipulating the prices to be lower than domestic competitors…

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      • bamboo@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They would dominate because they make a good product that isn’t more expensive than it has to be. US car companies have discontinued most affordable options to try and force people to only buy larger, higher end vehicles that most people have no use for. Now they’re mad that international companies are willing to sell the products they refuse to.

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      • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Government providing money to create innovative new tech and make it available at a lowe cost to their constituents

        Manipulating the prices to be lower

        I just wanted to point out the pervasiveness of capitalist propaganda here. They’re not manipulating prices, they’re helping their people. It just so happens that our capitalistic systems don’t do well when someone helps their neighbor because then we can’t abuse them.

        Now don’t get me wrong though, I’m not gonna sit here and tell you the Chinese government does no wrong. But in just this particular case I think we’re picking the wrong battle

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      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They aren’t manipulating, shits just cheaper to make over there. So they can make more profit and still charge less.

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      • shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The heavy subsidy by the Chinese government is the reason they would dominate though.

        ¡Waaaah bad mon China letting people get around with cars and public transit!

        /s

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    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If China is subsidizing the vheicle and we purchase them here, that means we are drawing from China’s subsidies.

      The claim is this is to save industries but the notion that was need to save specific industry is never questioned.

      We’re told we’re protecting jobs but that’s bullshit. We’re only protecting the profits of capitalists.

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      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Christ this is a short sighted view.

        We have regulations on markets for a reason, to prevent unfair advantage.

        Just because the US is protecting their interests doesn’t mean that what China is doing isn’t a deliberate effort to drive others out of business.

        It’s an aggressive market tactic and it isn’t good when China does it, just as it isn’t good when a megacorp races to the bottom to drive a mom and pop out of business.

        They did the same thing with solar panels and it was a net detriment on the industry NOT and advantage for the consumer.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i seem to recall it wasn’t an outright ban, but unreasonable tariffs on chinese evs specifically.

    Yeah, tariffs.

    Otherwise, you’d see the subcompact EVs with a 150mile range for about $9,000 US that BYD sells.

    No US manufacturer can remotely compete with the cost of EVs from China. Rather than letting people buy cheap EVs, the government decided to tariff them so that they cost as much as a luxury car.

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