Comment on IT'S ON: Albanese to call May 3 federal election tomorrow morning

Whirlybird@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• Nath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I was discussing this just a couple of days ago. Greens have terrible marketing and are in desperate need of a rebrand. I’m curious though: Which of their policies are you opposed to? Because honestly: if breaking up bank cartels, restoring Internet privacy laws, promoting local manufacturing, science and research as well as improving the calibre of education are bad, then I guess I’m bad.

  For me, my criticism of Greens comes mainly from putting stuff in policies that would be better suited to “dreams and aspirations”. They have a tendency to put stuff in there that are unspecific or at least out of the realms of what government does. But for all of that, I struggle to point to anything on their policy stuff and say “that’s an awful position”. At least, even if I’m not totally on-board, I see where they’re coming from. And that’s another point. Their policies page overwhelms you with too much to actually go through in one sitting. But, look at the Liberal/Labor equivalent pages? Greens are super open about what they stand for and what they would like to achieve. Labor have a few bullet points and Libs have a marketing brochure.

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  • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That Labor page is a bit pathetic isn’t it.

    I imagine they’re going to roll out something fancy once the election is announced.

    I’m a bit surprised neither of the two major parties really seems interested in environmental sustainability. Last election the teal independents really stole the show.

    LNP’s nuclear power plan is just an excuse to keep burning coal for another 30 years. I think most people who actually care about emissions will see that, but the existence of a plan will ease the conscience of LNP voters.

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  • Whirlybird@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What the greens say on their propaganda page and what the greens actually have shown they stand for are very different things.

    Bandt is all for mass unchecked immigration, child mutilation and sterilisation in the name of “gender affirmation”, and destroying the country via “renewable energy” that is the exact opposite of sustainable. Pretty much all we’ve heard about from the greens the last few years is “free Palestine”. Nothing about the fact that Palestine is run by literal terrorists, or that they committed one of the worst, most despicable terrorist attacks to start this war in decades. No, just free Palestine.

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  • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Labor has updated their policies this morning with the campaign announcement:

    alp.org.au/policies

    In my other comment I mentioned LNP’s climate change position, here is ALPs:

    alp.org.au/protecting-our-climate/

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    • Nath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So I had a brief look at the Labor policies, and to be frank, it all looks reasonable. I didn’t see anything there where I thought “that’s an awful position”.

      So I re-visited the Liberal version. Maybe they all sound fine at first. Oh wow the Liberal one is awful. It’s all ‘Labor bad’ and ‘Under Labor…’ and ‘fix the mess of Labor’. Why are they the only party of the three to trash talk their opponents?

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      • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I think that’s pretty classic conservative politics isn’t it?

        Not specifically whingeing about everyone else maybe but certainly undoing all the mistakes the progressives have made.

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• Fleur_@hilariouschaos.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Hating the greens for being too commie 🤝 hating greens for not being commie enough

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  • dumblederp@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    We need the goldilocks zone of communism.

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• recursiveInsurgent@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Vote Green and save the brush-tailed rock wallaby!

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• notgold@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I thought Mr musk taught us that we can be capitalist and save the planet at the same time

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• Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  As much as I love the south park analogy it simply doesn’t apply to our system at all.

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  • Whirlybird@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    How doesn’t it? We effectively have a 2 party solution, both of which are shit.

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    • Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      We have:

      • Preferential voting.

      • Proportional representation (at least in the lower house)

      • Independent organisation that sets seat boundaries.

      • compulsory voting

      • no electoral college system

      Our system is completely different to the USA. Granted our media landscape is still just as fucked as theirs.

      First preferences also result in funding going to that party provided it meets a minimum threshold. Putting others ahead of the major parties sends them a message to do better. It has also resulted in a number of seats being held by independents.

      Unless you actually live in the seat the party leader is in, you are not voting for that party leader / giant douche / turd sandwich.

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      • Whirlybird@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Cool, but in Australia you’re still choosing between Albo and Dutton for prime minister. ALP and LNP for government. Turd sandwich and giant douche.

        The electoral college etc have literally nothing to do with it.

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