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Wut? It’s shown in the show that demons are a direct threat to non demon life due to their nature.

I would think of it less like genocide and more like eradication of an existential threat to non demon kind. It fits in the same category for me that killing all mosquitoes does.

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CluckN@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Yeah they even showed a flashback to show how little they care about life. They only use speech as a means to an end for killing humans.

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- HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  The show contradicts your point about speech only being used to lure humans when they speak to each other in private, discussing things such as parents.
  
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  - remon@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The demons came to a town disgused a peace envoy, a pretend diplomatic mission to disable a magic barrier. This absolutly goes beyond just immitating speech.
    
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    HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Exactly.
    
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neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
It all depends on how you define and categorize morality.

The Tolkien dilemma reasoned that since orcs could talk and demonstratively discuss the ideas of right and wrong, then they have some sense of morality. If they have reason and morals, could they at some point decide to stop being evil? And if so, is it moral to eradicate them entirely?

I haven’t read the Frieren manga, but the show referred to its world’s demons as not actually speaking, but having learned to make human-like noises to elicit desired responses. I’m not sure if I buy that explanation (given how the characters behave and converse) but if you do, it’s a functional hedge against feeling bad about our beloved protagonist doing a genocide.

Again, the manga might get into this more. Also this could be a potential character arc for Frieren; whoop lol maybe I shouldn’t do a genocide after all. I do hope it goes this way, but I doubt it will.

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- remon@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  I haven’t read the Frieren manga, but the show referred to its world’s demons as not actually speaking, but having learned to make human-like noises to elicit desired responses.
  
  I have read ahead quite a bit, but it’s actually not relevant, because the show itself (which is pretty much identical to the manga) already debunks that.
  
  Aura and her executioners are clearly very intellegent and even have an inner monologue. (One of the lines I actually dislike is when one demon asks the other “what is a mother?” And he just replies with “who knows?”. From what we’ve seen from the demons so far, they should totally be capable of having figured out human reproduction.)
  
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