Comment on Cloudflare blocking Pale Moon and other browsers with smaller user bases

NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• tja@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  But everyone else is

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    then I guess they don’t value us as much as they should and need to be reminded of their place under the consumers boot.

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    • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean the criticism against Cloudflare is 100% valid. Having a single service be the single point of failure for half the web, not to mention that they can read the contents of every single request they proxy, is a terrible joke.

      But the service they provide is real. A small business/service just doesn’t have the capabilities to handle a DDoS attack. And every minute their site is down means lost customers/users.

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    • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s good in theory, but a site behind Cloudflare won’t necessarily notice that a legitimate user got blocked. If you want them to care, you’ll have to find a way to contact them. For more impact, tell them which competitor you spent money with instead.

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    • reiterationstation@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s a good bit of small business which is already pretty aware of the boot they are under.

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• ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Then you won’t browse about 20% of the Internet, which doesn’t sound like a lot but it’s disproportionately impacting sites you would generally want to browse

  I posted to this effect in a Firefox alternatives thread: if you use an alternative low adoption rate FOSS browser you trade increased privacy via less/no data harvesting for decreased privacy via much higher susceptibility to browser fingerprinting by google/meta/etc. doesn’t matter if you resize your windows if your browser reports its one that only 5,000 people use. And something tells me the tech giants have a way around user agent spoofing

  And now even if you don’t care about that? Fuck you. Cloudflare locks you out of the modern internet because of course anyone not using chrome or safari is a bot

  I have pretty draconian privacy protections on my devices and home network. It makes the internet hostile. Captchas regularly fail and I have to try them many times. Embedded youtube videos always think I am a bot and refuse to play unless I sign in, I get weird interstitial pages with captchas on google search, yandex, etc (kagi and searx don’t so I use searx), etc.

  Advertisers have pushed companies to make the internet openly hostile to anyone who wants to maintain privacy. And to be clear google and meta are advertisers first and foremost. Fuck them

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I have given up hiding from the tracking. Instead flood them with a torrent of bullshit data. AdNauseam, click on all the adverts. If the internet is going to be hostile then I shall be actively malicious to it in response.

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• dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That’s analogous to saying you won’t call any numbers on certain carrier It’s possible, but your overall service is devalued if you can’t connect to a large group of people.

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