Comment on 25 arrested in global hit against AI-generated child sexual abuse material
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Not going to read the article, but I will say that I understand making hyper-realistic fictional CP illegal, because it would make limiting actual CP impossible.
As long as it’s clearly fictional though, let people get off to whatever imaginary stuff they want to. We might find it disgusting, but there are plenty of sexual genres that most people would find disgusting b yet shouldn’t be illegal.
DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The only way to generate something like that is to teach it something like that from real images.
ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I don’t think this is actually true. Pretty sure if you feed it naked adults and clothed children it can figure out the rest.
DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
That’s not how these image generators work.
How would it know what an age appropriate penis looks like with our, you know, seeing one.
Allero@lemmy.today 1 month ago
That’s exactly how they work. According to many articles I’ve seen in the past, one of the most common models used for this purpose is Stable Diffusion. For all we know, this model was never fed with any CSAM materials, but it seems to be good enough for people to get off - which is exactly what matters.
lime@feddit.nu 1 month ago
considering style transfer models, you could probably just draw or 3d model unknown details and feed it that.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
That’s just not true.
That said, there’s a decent chance that existing models use real images, and that is what we should be fighting against. The user of a model has plausible deniability because there’s a good chance they don’t understand how they work, but the creators of the model should absolutely know where they’re getting the source data from.
Prove that the models use illegal material and go after the model creators for that, because that’s an actual crime. Don’t go after people using the models who are providing alternatives to abusive material.
DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I think all are unethical, and any service offering should be shut down yes.
I never said prosecute the user’s.
I said you can’t make it ethically, because at some point, someone is using/creating original art and the odds of human explotations at some point in the chain are just too high.