What’s a SKU? Google just says “Stock Keeping Unit”, but I don’t think that’s correct in this context.
Comment on Framework’s first desktop is a strange—but unique—mini ITX gaming PC
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Holy moly this is awesome! I am in for the 128GB SKU.
I know people are going to whine about non upgradable memory, but you can just replace the board, and in this case it’s so worth it for the speed/power efficiency.
My only ask would be a full X16 (or at least a physical X16) PCIe slot or breakout ribbon.
alleycat@lemmy.world 3 months ago
officermike@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It’s correct. A product with various options will have each combination of options under a different SKU. It’s a singular number that identifies an exact version of a product.
chaospatterns@lemmy.world 3 months ago
In this context, SKU refers to a variant of this product
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
its used to mean a new product that you specifically have to keep track of. e. g if you found framework desktops in a store, it wouldnt all be sold under 1 sku. all 3 ram capacities would be 3 different bar codes
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
a new product
not only new
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
As others said.
In this context it would be one of the CPU/Memory combinations framework offers: en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_AMD_Ryzen_processors#S…
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 months ago
but you can just replace the board
The board is like, the whole computer tho. The mobo, CPU, GPU and RAM are all the same component. It’s everything Framework is supposed to oppose. That took them what, 4 years? to throw away their values?
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They also announced three other products (one new, two refreshes) which are still being actively developed and are fully-modular devices at low cost. If they’re “throwing away their values,” they’re not doing it very well.
slacktoid@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I understand the memory constraints but it does feel weird for framework, is all I have to say. But that’s also the general trajectory of computing from what it seems. I really want lpcamm to catch on!
Scholars_Mate@lemmy.world [bot] 3 months ago
Apparently Framework did try to get AMD to use LPCAMM, but it just didn’t work from a signal integrity standpoint at the kind of speeds they need to run the memory at.
grue@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Sounds like it doesn’t bode well for the future of DIMMs at all, TBH.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You have a DIMM view of the future.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
My AM5 system doesn’t post with 128GB of 5600 DDR5 at higher than 4400 at JEDEC timings and voltage. 2 DIMMs are fine. 4 DIMMs… rip. So I’d say the present of DIMMs is already a bit shaky. DIMMs are great for lots of cheap RAM. I paid a lot less than what I’d have to pay for the equivalent size of RAM in a Framework desktop. Of course there are significant differences between the speed.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Eventually most system RAM will have to be packaged anyway. Physics dictate you pay a penalty having it go over pins and mobo traces, and it gets more severe with every advancement.
It’s possible that external RAM will eventually evolve into a “2nd tier” of system memory, for background processes, spillover, inactive programs/data, things like that).
leisesprecher@feddit.org 3 months ago
It’s already fourth tier after L1, L2, L3 caches.
Maybe something like optane will make a comeback. Having 16gb of soldered RAM and 500gb of relatively slow, but inexpensive optane RAM would be great.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
DRAM is so cheap and ubiquitous that they will probably keep using that, barring any massive breakthroughs. The “persistence after power-off” is nice to have, but not strictly needed.
slacktoid@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
That would be fine. But as long as it can use it as RAM and not just a staging ground.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Keep in mind that it would be pretty slow, as it doesn’t make sense to burn power and die area on a wide secondary bus.