what’s the rationale for IT not wanting to pay for the fobs?
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dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.
I’d never do it, but we have one at work and he’s singlehandedly causing so much grief at work. Because none of the engineers wanna use a security app for login. They want a fob.
IT refuses to pay for fobs and wants us to use an app, but they also don’t want to pay for a phone for anyone in engineering just to use the security app because it opens a floodgate of people with company phones.
It’s just wonderful to watch this fight from the sidelines sipping tea.
grepe@lemmy.world 6 days ago
AA5B@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Presumably they’re expensive and someone needs to manage them.
My company’s approach is “we’ll pay your phone bill if you use an Authenticator app on your phone.” Cheaper for them, plus they don’t need to buy company phones or fobs, and who’s going to complain about their phone bill getting paid?
A previous company tried similar but required putting your phone under enterprise management. A lot of us disagreed with that
scottywh@lemmy.world 5 days ago
They’re not expensive at all.
AA5B@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Well, my old company sure made a ridiculous profit selling them. You may be looking at the cost per fob hardware, but not including the management cost. They are much more expensive than an authentication app, plus authentication apps are mostly managed by someone else, and you don’t have distribution overhead
Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Managers probably sold apps as a cost cutting measure
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 5 days ago
My job does this too. It’s literally just cost cutting. The fobs expire and need to be replaced every so often but the app lasts “forever”.
IMO the fobs pay for themselves because what they are spending on fobs is the same as what they’re spending on IT members answering calls all day for employees that are having login issues with the app.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
I worked a job where I had to have an app that tracked me wherever I went. I finally had to tell my boss I couldn’t use it anymore because it was killing my battery in like 3 hours.
If I was still working and a job wanted me to put an app on my personal phone I’d tell them to go fuck themselves.
Just another way capitalists thieve money from its workers.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
I’d never do it, but we have one at work and he’s singlehandedly causing so much grief at work.
tell him the funny internet man that replied to you told him that he was based and that we collectively appreciate his efforts of basedness.
commander@lemmings.world 5 days ago
I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.
Why are you cheering for a lack of self-control?
Smartphones are great. You just need to be smart enough to not let them use you.
It should put into perspective who is a useful idiot, and who is not.
tomalley8342@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Perhaps his friends do not have smart phones, because they do not want smart phones.
DeaDvey@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
I have no smartphone and am unable to access any of my college resources or email from home because you need a security app for remote login. I’ve got in trouble a few times for it but idk what I’m supposed to do. I wasn’t able to access my Exam Timetable because of this and had to ask some friends when the exams were because my teachers didn’t know (somehow). It’s very annoying.
toynbee@lemmy.world 5 days ago
You could install an android emulator on your personal computer then run the authenticator from there.
Flisty@mstdn.social 5 days ago
@toynbee @DeaDvey aren't there authenticators that run on desktop browsers? Or does it have to be a specific one
toynbee@lemmy.world 5 days ago
The OC said in a different comment that you must be on the college network to set it up.
You don’t need to tag me, by the way; I get a notification if someone responds to me directly.
DeaDvey@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
Yes, it’s a specific one. App only.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
BRB pulling up to a QR code scanner with my 15 inch thinkpad w520 running on 92whr of battery consuming literal watts of power because it’s from 2012.
Hopefully i’m not an inconvenience.
DeaDvey@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
The authenticator requires you to be in the college’s network to set it up for the first time and I don’t have a laptop.
toynbee@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Ah, that does complicate matters. Good luck.