Comment on Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers

• CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You mean exist to ensure the underpaid actually get the legal minimum wage and to stop exploitive rich people from exploiting poor people?

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  • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But it isn’t like a lot of taxi companies didn’t do the same thing to their workers.

    In most parts of the US, restriction of the number of taxis came from issuing a limited number of medallions. The owners of these medallions effectively became rentseekers, renting out their medallions to drivers. The system was rife with abuse.

    Part of the main issue now is that a lot of small rentseekers got taken over by two big ones.

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Uber drivers don’t make less money than taxi drivers. On average, they make about the same.

    Taxi: ziprecruiter.com/…/What-Is-the-Average-TAXI-CAB-D…

    Uber: ziprecruiter.com/…/What-Is-the-Average-UBER-Taxi-…

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    • darkmarx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then why would the company be against paying minimum wage?

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because it’s a custom minimum wage that only their companies have to pay, set arbitrarily to make shit like taxis more competitive.

        Yellow Cab fucking admitted in NYC that they only pushed the “Uber drivers make lower wages” rhetoric because they couldn’t compete, when in fact Uber drivers make what taxi drivers make.

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    • nbailey@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Uber & Lyft drivers assume all the financial risk and responsibility for their car payment, maintenance, insurance, cleaning, health and dental insurance, etc. You’ll find that once you factor in the externalities the tech companies push into their workers, they don’t necessarily make good money at all.

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    • GravityAce@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s weird that you think someone making more than almost 40% of the country is “poor”

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• grte@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Still better than the ‘gig economy’.

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The gig economy is less precarious for the people that choose it because it fits their schedule. That’s why they choose it. Jobs aren’t exactly hard to get right now.

    Also uber drivers don’t make less money than taxi drivers. On average, they make about the same.

    Taxi: ziprecruiter.com/…/What-Is-the-Average-TAXI-CAB-D…

    Uber: ziprecruiter.com/…/What-Is-the-Average-UBER-Taxi-…

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    • ours@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “choose” as in they all had a choice between a dependable job with benefits and a gig is a bit of an leap. Sure it’s the case for some but most certainly not all.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’d love to see your citation that most Uber drivers are somehow forced into it

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    • usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do taxi drivers typically have to own/maintain/insure their own cars? I’ve always thought those were all paid for by the taxi company.

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      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Usually not but if you put a dent in it you get the terrible one in the worst areas for a while as punishment. Assuming of course they don’t just cancel your shift. That is why it was important to always note the scratches. I put a bumper scratch in once and was ordered to do the inspection line up. 2 hours of sitting there not making any money. If I leave I have no job the next day. Ended up quitting that week.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No but they also don’t have to do any of the other shit drivers do, like get qualify for medallions etc.

        Both jobs have their hidden costs.

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• protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There’s nothing preventing Uber, Lyft, or any other company from charging realistic rates to pay drivers a minimum wage. But if Uber or Lyft do this, their rates end up being more than traditional taxis, so the question is why

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Uber and lift drivers make more than minimum wage so I’m not sure what you’re even saying here.

    They cost less than taxis because they have less overhead.

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    • Deiv@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If that was the case then this bill would be no of no concern to them. In reality, only some drivers make more than minimum wage, not all

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s an additional charge just for those companies, not an actual minimum wage.

        Read the article.

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    • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Read the article 😑

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nothing in this article disagrees with what I’m saying

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