Comment on Hexbear federation megathread
alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 1 year agobrigade
It’s not brigading, this is the top thread on both of our instances and the admin OK’d our input. blahaj had 2 Hexbear federation threads, one including everyone and one just for blahaj users.
Also hexbear doesn’t have downvotes, so we have a culture of responding to add or refute information.
debate ideology
We’re pretty disdainful of debate culture. A discussion where both people are trying to appeal to a third party instead of have a genuine discussion is inherently in bad faith.
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I keep hearing a lot about “our culture” to excuse behaviours that are getting peoples backs up. However in real life it’s pretty wide knowledge that you may have to temper your behaviour outside of your culture if you go abroad or the like. Should this not apply if you’re in someone else’s instance on here too?
Fibby@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They just explained that they lacked down votes in their instance. So instead of downvoting, they reply and explain their thought process. I haven’t seen anything rude in the replies either.
And what the fuck does “temper your behavior outside your culture” mean? That just sounds like anti immigration bullshit lol.
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I mean, I was kind of talking the other way around, if I go from the west to a Middle Eastern country I’d have to change my behaviour, what I wear, etc.
Tipping is a good example here, in the UK we don’t do tipping in the same way as the US, but if we travel there we would be expected to and “we don’t do it like that in our country” isn’t an acceptable answer. Same here, I don’t buy, “we don’t have downvotes so have to send a picture of a pig having a Tom tit” as a valid excuse for behaviour either.
NailBunny@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Sure one might change their behaviors when traveling accordingly, but I think people would be generally understanding if an American tried to tip in the UK, and I would hope a waitress in America would understand why someone from the UK might not tip. With federation that lapse of culture is even more understandable because it’s not like I’m getting on a plane and traveling across the ocean, I’m just clicking a link that was already on my all on Hexbear. We’re also a lot larger/more active of an instance with almost quadruple the active monthly users of lemm.ee, and Hexbear has been around for about 3 years. A lot of the “brigading” people see is just the result of there being many active bears + this stuff showing up on our feeds + it being directly about us. When you consider all of these things, does it make a bit more sense why we might show up like a swarm of locusts throwing around our own inside jokes?
MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 1 year ago
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah, they didn’t go up until you’d spent several days posting pigs shitting all over the place and getting defeded from other subs though did they?
MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I believe we were preemptively defederated from by those instances, with a common rationale being that we weren’t pro-NATO.
As for the rules being new in response to federation, you seem to be complaining that we’re doing exactly what you asked us to do above.
I suspect there’s no behaviour or amount of effort you’d accept. If that’s the case you should just say so.