Comment on FromSoftware didn’t want Sony to publish Dark Souls as it was ‘disappointed’ by how Demon’s Souls was treated

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• ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Sony sucks, using your money to try and buy exclusives is toxic garbage behavior, they deserve any criticism and troubles they come across.

  I understand that exclusivity on games can be shit but if, I remember well lots of PlayStation games are already on PC (spider man, last of us and ghost of Tsushima) and steller blade will be soon too.

  Not only that, Xbox and Nintendo have exclusives too. Not to forget about Epic Games and their exclusive deals.

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  • ysjet@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    … Nintendo literally personally develops their exclusives, let’s not pretend that’s an apples to apples comparison.

    Xbox is absolutely terrible at buying exclusives though, yes. Worse than Sony, arguably.

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    • paultimate14@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Nintendo doesn’t “personally” do anything. They are a corporation.

      And they do purchase both IP’s and studios. Just off the top of my head they bought Monolith from Bandai-Namco and Bayonetta has been exclusive ever since the second one.

      Microsoft has been way worse than Sony. Zenimax alone was might have been bigger than Sony’s entire portfolio depending on how you measure. Activision-Blizzard was far, far bigger. And at least with Zenimax, it seems like most of their studios have gotten worse since acquisition, with a lot of them being shut down.

      I don’t mean to overly defenf Sony, but just paying publishers for 1 year of exclusivity seems pretty mild in comparison. I’d prefer they didn’t buy studios like Bungie, but at the same time the acquisitions of Naughty Dog and Insomniac seem to have worked out pretty well.

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      • ysjet@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Nintendo doesn’t “personally” do anything. They are a corporation. lol. lmao, even.

        Just off the top of my head they bought Monolith from Bandai-Namco and Bayonetta has been exclusive ever since the second one. Monolithsoft was three separate offices- Nintendo bought two of them, which were both already working exclusively as a Nintendo second party, and the third was dissolved during the Bandai-Namco merger due to the fact that Namco was treating them like shit after Nakamura retired and the merger was the last straw. Monolithsoft is one, if not the only, exception to Nintendo staying out of buying companies, and Iwata has even commented on it only happening because Sigiuira basically asked them to, and it not being something they want or like to do.

        As for Bayonettas since 2, Nintendo’s publishing it for PlatinumGames, who used to be a Nintendo second party. They started working with Sega in 2008 iirc because Nintendo literally pointed Sega their way (This is the same time period when Nintendo was giving Sega work to try to dig them out of their hole, e.g. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games). My understanding is that internally Nintendo still considers PlatinumGames a second party dev, despite Sega publishing several games for them.

        Microsoft has been way worse than sony. Probably, yeah.

        I don’t mean to overly defend Sony Then don’t? Going to completely uninvolved third parties and snapping them up to hoard their IPs, or simply outright paying them to not publish elsewhere (coughepiccough) should always be indefensible. Xbox is worse, but Sony is still real bad about this shit, and Epic is worse than all of them.

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    • ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      My point is; there are more platforms that do exclusives.

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      • ysjet@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The problem isn’t having exclusives, it’s buying exclusives to punish customers, which Sony (and Xbox) does.

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  • paultimate14@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s so weird to me how many people seem to just hate Sony for doing milder versions of what Nintendo and Microsoft have been doing for much longer.

    Sony didn’t buy Zenimax or Activision-Blizzard. Or heck, you could point to the gigantic graveyard of studios that EA and Microsoft have purchased and shut down over the years.

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  • Tagger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Does Xbox still have exclusives though? I thought they were kind of open platforming everything?

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    • paultimate14@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Depends on whether you consider Xbox and Windows to count as 2 different platforms or not.

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      • Tagger@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I thought they were putting all their stuff on playstation too, is that not the case?

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• EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Sony doesn’t really do that, not in the way that we’ve seen Microsoft do it at least. And most PlayStation exclusives are on PC now or are planned for PC.

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