From my experience, I’ve seen very few reasonable comments from hexbear members.
Sure, other instances have bad actors, but it seems especially bad on hexbear.
I don’t even think it’s a matter of ideology or worldview. It’s the absurd amount of conflict, trolling and generally “a bad time” they’re bringing to the fediverse.
If the instance can handle their toxic user base, I don’t see a problem in federation. But until then I think defederation is the best move.
This is my personal experience with hexbear though. Everybody is free to express their ideology, but please let us do it in a mature and adult way.
quindraco@lemm.ee 1 year ago
If you think it’s unfounded calling hexbear members nazis, I don’t think you’ve ever been to a hexbear thread. The most recent hexbear post I encountered was explicitly anti-democracy, which was only atypical in that usually hexbearians skip the explicit labeling and jump right in.
I genuinely invite you to try and find a single hexbearian who supports the right of trans people, cis people, or both to autonomy, i.e. voting. Try it. Try to find one that isn’t all-in on being pro-dictatorship.
Pseudoplatanus22@hexbear.net 1 year ago
What are you talking about? It’s the most explicitly pro-trans space I’ve ever seen. If your idea of autonomy is restricted to voting, that’s your problem. We believe in actual democracy, as in the voice of the people. Can you point me to a democratic system you aspire to which doesn’t ultimately exist to look after the interests of capital? That’s the problem we have with what you call democracy. The Nazis were promoted into power by establishment politicians to do exactly the same thing: protect the interests of capital by eradicating communists and trade unionists. The mass murder of Jews, Roma, LGBT people, and many other groups, was neither here nor there to the industrialists who backed the Nazis.
We will always react negatively to being called Nazis, because it’s so far from the truth as to be utterly laughable, if it weren’t so offensive to the members of our community who would have been oppressed by the Nazis, and who often are oppressed by modern bourgeois liberal democracies.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Pseudoplatanus22@hexbear.net 1 year ago
We’ll defend Stalin, but not specifically for his record on Gay rights. It’s what we call Critical Support. Likewise with our support of Russia, although it’s important to understand why we have come to this consensus. This post gives a broad overview of our views on the Russo-Ukrainian war, but to truly understand our worldview would take years of immersion not only in our space, but other leftist spaces, and would require some reading. I’d recommend State and Revolution and Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism by Lenin to start with, as I’m that way inclined, though others would point you in different directions. Ultimately however, it all comes back to Marx’s Capital.
420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 year ago
From many Hexbear threads on the topic of LGBT rights in the Soviet Union (and Warsaw Pact countries), here’s my understanding:
It’s also important to consider the USSR’s stance on LGBT rights in context of the rest of the world – they were still wrong to oppress LGBT people, but no one else was doing much better, which indicates those bad policies were not some unique aspect of socialism. Cuba, for instance, just passed a Family Code that has LGBT protections far ahead of anything the U.S. has at a national scale, and the public support programs of socialist countries (housing, education, labor protections, etc.) are significant benefits for any marginalized community even if not expressly intended as such.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 1 year ago