Sorry, but it really feels like you’re minimising genocide here, by suggesting the wide-spread censorship of anti-genocide voices in our media is not a serious problem.
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Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 4 days ago
Interesting you talk about feeling safe:
…com.au/…/huge-rise-in-antisemitism-top-cop-says-…
‘Huge rise in antisemitism’: Top cop says thousands of officers deployed to hotspots in Melbourne suburbs
He said such reports had surged since Hamas militants killed 1200 people in the October 7, 2023
The reported antisemitic incidents spanned from verbal and physical abuse of people in the Jewish community, to vandalism, a neo-Nazi demonstration on the steps of parliament, and a firebombing of a Melbourne synagogue, he said.
So glad I don’t live in Melbourne right now, firstly a person got fired over tweets because of the jews shakes fist and on the other side threats, intimidation, a neo-nazi demonstration, physical abuse and firebombs on the other
What has gotten into the water in Melbourne? Too much social media?
Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 days ago
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 days ago
I thought I was clear, I don’t think it’s a genocide.
Oct 7th on the other hand:
Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 days ago
I don’t think it’s a genocide tbh
Ok, so we’ve got genocide denial coming in right here.
Basically every reputable expert disagrees with you.
Meanwhile, your best source can’t even be called anything more than “allegations”.
And even if Israel isn’t committing genocide, they’re undoubtedly creating apartheid conditions and regularly committing war crimes including targeting medics and journalists. And they’re the country with all the power in this situation. We rarely look at the harm caused by black South Africans, or by 1910s–1920s Irish republicans, or American revolutionaries, and say that they were equally as bad as their oppressors.
I feel bad for the innocent Jewish Australians who are being targeted by attacks. I really do. But a significant part of the blame lies on Israel for drumming up anger towards Jews by its deliberate attempts to conflate antisemitism with antizionism, giving genuine antisemites a convenient shield to hide behind. And also with many of the more vocal prominent members of the Australian Jewish community for taking Israel’s side and helping share their propagandistic outlook.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s a genocide.
Israel's Genocide on Occupied Palestine
Image - De-Gaza: A Year of Israel’s Genocide and the Collapse of World Order - Euro-Med Monitor Report see Chapter 2 and 3 > Our first-hand observations of the medical and humanitarian catastrophe inflicted on Gaza are consistent with the descriptions provided by an increasing number of legal experts and organizations concluding that genocide is taking place in Gaza. - Doctors Without Borders: Life in the death trap that is Gaza > It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial of life-saving goods and humanitarian aid, and the restriction of power supplies. It analyses Israel’s intent through this pattern of conduct and statements by Israeli decision-makers. It concludes that Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. - Amnesty: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza Revealed Through Evidence and Analysis Video and Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territory: ‘You Feel Like You Are Subhuman’: Israel’s Genocide Against Palestinians in Gaza Report > On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians. > The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January. - Israel’s war on Gaza: What the international courts have said > So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide. - “A Textbook Case of Genocide”: Israeli Holocaust Scholar Raz Segal Decries Israel’s Assault on Gaza > More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory. - 800+ Legal Scholars Say Israel May Be Perpetrating ‘Crime of Genocide’ in Gaza > An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that “Israel’s genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole” as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank. - UN Expert Says Impunity for Israel Must End as ‘Genocidal Violence’ Spreads to West Bank > Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities. - Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide – Continuously Updated > I, Lee Mordechai, a historian by profession and an Israeli citizen, bear witness in this document to the situation in Gaza as events are unfolding. The enormous amount of evidence I have seen, much of it referenced later in this document, has been enough for me to believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza. I explain why I chose to use the term below. Israel’s campaign is ostensibly its reaction to the Hamas massacre of Oct. 7, 2023, in which war crimes and crimes against humanity were committed within the context of the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians that can be dated back to 1917 or 1948 (or other dates). In all cases, historical grievances and atrocities do not justify additional atrocities in the present. Therefore, I consider Israel’s response to Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7 utterly disproportionate and criminal. - Bearing Witness to the Israel-Gaza War by Lee Mordechai Others: AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC
notgold@aussie.zone 4 days ago
I think social media is blowing this out of proportion and making it sound bigger than it is.
I work in northern Melbourne which has a huge middle eastern community (and big emphasis on community), that for the most part just lives their lives without bringing middle eastern trouble here.
The pro gaza protests last year on occasion saw people go a bit far but no different to union rallies. I think people are nastier at costco or boxing day sales.
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 4 days ago
I’ve never heard anyone yell “Kill Them” at costco sales in reference to Jews.
notgold@aussie.zone 4 days ago
I’ve heard people at costco call other people Jews, Nazis, cunts, tightasses, assholes, pricks. I feel there should be more security in that place.
Taleya@aussie.zone 4 days ago
Nothings in the water here, that’s a pile of overblown shit being inflated because we have an election coming up. Much like the main article.