Comment on Colombian president says cocaine 'no worse than whisky'

onlyoneIbought@r.nf ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah. I think DUI and other laws are generally good ideas. I don’t care that much if someone wants to do coke, but I really don’t want drunk drivers or people nodding off on heroin operating heavy machinery.

  There also should be a lot more social programs to help people quit when they want to. And probably more honest education about how yes, even you can get addicted.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    …but I really don’t want drunk drivers or people nodding off on heroin operating heavy machinery.

    That’s what the coke is for.

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• jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think people should have the liberty to buy and injest whatever they want.

  However, you should not be allowed to sell whatever you want to other people. The power dynamics between companies and consumers is not balanced, and capitalism will always find ways to abuse its costumers for profit. That’s why some countries are trying to regulate ultra processes foods and sugary foods.

  So yeah, you should be free to carry fentanyl and use it. But not to give it or sell it to anyone without restrictions. Same with all other drugs.

  This is a black and white over-simplified overview of my stance, because you also need nuance. Does it benefit society to require that certain jobs be done by people who are absolutely sober and thus go through regular drug tests? Does it benefit society that some people be sentenced to mandatory rehab? Or does it benefit society more to have freedom to trade and consume drugs? Your freedom to use drugs might interfere with my fredom to leave the house safely.

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  • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It should be sold by the government then. Similar to how government handles the lottery, if they didn’t then some organized criminals would do it instead. They can control the stores and the packaging so it doesnt seem fun and cool and is just dosage information and a bunch of health facts and treatment plans. They can then direct the revenues to treatment and education.

    If you just decriminalize consumption without legalizing some way to buy it then a lot of the problems with the war on drugs continue: crime, violence, lack of regulation etc.

    I don’t have much faith in us handling it this way though considering the way we just effectively legalized gambling and now the most predatory companies are flooding addicts with advertisements to get them to gamble more.

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    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes totally agree. I missed that part on my comment. You totally need some way to buy product that is safe nd contains exactly what the label says. So many people use drugs without testing them and lots of drugs are adultured. Ironically, cocaine being the most notable for never being pure cocaine outside maybe in Colombia.

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  • vonbaronhans@midwest.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I can get behind this, generally speaking.

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• Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Banning alcohol worked so well for the Americans in the early 20th century. Gangsters and dangerous black market businesses sold it with no legal oversight. It could be laced with anything.

  Banning narcotics worked so well for the Americans in the mid 20th century to today. Druglords and dangerous black market clubs sell it with no legal oversight. It could be laced with anything.

  Now the US has the largest prison population in the world. Those imprisoned on drug consumption or possession charges have to spend their whole lives with that over their heads. Job opportunities passed up, apartment applications, etc. Maybe it’s time to reconsider the approach?

  PS: Another drug, cannabis, was criminalized because it was used by black people and hippies, groups inclined against voting for Nixon.

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• SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Id be hard pressed to think cocaine is worse. I honestly trust a coked out driver more than a drunk driver. Fighting I think stays around the same overall drunk/coked out though. Lmaooo

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• piccolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Thats it. No more asprin for you.

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