genetic fallacy.
Comment on Hexbear federation megathread
OkToBeTakei@lemm.ee 1 year agoWe try to encourage people to engage in a healthy way here on Lemm.ee
hexbear users, if you look at their post/comment histories, the modulo’s, etc., show they have zero interest in that.
oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Matt_Glan@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I see quite a few of their comments and posts especially of late. It is a mix really between healthy and unhealthy. However if I compare to other instances I would agree more with your point.
OkToBeTakei@lemm.ee 1 year ago
my biggest concern is not only their individual behavior, but their tendency to brigade posts. I’ve seen hexbear users get into a disagreement with another user then, suddenly, 5 or 10 more appear, vote-manipulate, and dogpile troll the person into submission. it’s pretty ugly and shocking to see.
look, I appreciate that you guys are trying to use defederation as a last resort, but… c’mon, do you really see these users all suddenly changing their toxic behaviors? and why should this whole instance suffer the consequences with individual users here being left to fend for ourselves, having to spend half our time here blocking hundred and hundreds of users every time one of them gets “upset” and instigates a brigade and cavalcade of trolls?
GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 year ago
This is a misrepresentation. The majority of the time (there have been maybe two exceptions to this that I know of) a post gets to the front of Active on Hexbear and our much-more-active userbase encounters it purely by incident. There’s no need to get into conspiracy theories without evidence when the counterproposal – that our instance is just the more active one – is verifiably true and accounts for observations with many fewer assumptions.
SeborrheicDermatitis@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It’s more so that stuff just appears on the hexbear.net front page and people comment on it (like this one). I don’t even know what Lemmy really is so I just comment on whatever’s there! There is no organised brigading effort as such, it’s just how Lemmy works combined with the unexpected introduction of an active community changing the pre-existing community balances.
OkToBeTakei@lemm.ee 1 year ago
explaining the means and methods of the brigading doesn’t change what it is and its effects on the communities.
oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 year ago
People from other instances commenting on your posts is the whole point of federation. If you care about redditorisms like “brigading” so much then reddit is a better place for you than lemmy.
OkToBeTakei@lemm.ee 1 year ago
no, the point of federation is to avoid centralized control of the platform, not to be forced to endure bullies and trolls— it’s also to allow defederation from troll farm instances like yours.
quartz242@hexbear.net 1 year ago
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Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’ve been dogpiled by them for calling them out before. Apparently my opinion doesn’t matter because I’m a “Canuck”
OkToBeTakei@lemm.ee 1 year ago
give it a few minutes. they’ll come an troll you here and troll bait you with some ridiculous logically-fallacious argument blaming your for your own victimhood.