I live in a northern border city. What benefit should I be on the lookout for?
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FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I think this question’s a tad premature, as it’s been less than two weeks, but in the short-term I imagine the major beneficiaries are the border cities along the southern and northern borders.
Other than that, it’s the same culty shit we see no matter who’s elected. Dems pretend their guy is a good president. Republicans pretend their guy is a good president, even when they’re doing objectively atrocious things.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Lesser numbers of illegal immigrants entering the country, both as a result of the tariff deal and increased enforcement.
MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
That sounds like you think immigrants come with more problems than they resolve. If that was the case why are labor economists in consensus that all nations should have open borders?
If illegal immigration was actually harming American society wouldn’t the reasonable response be criminalizing hiring undocumented people and arresting the owners of businesses that hire these people, yet at no point is this suggested can you think of a reason why?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Not at all. I support legal immigration.
But I think the majority that voted for Trump firmly believe fewer illegal immigrants is a good thing.
Euphorazine@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
But what are illegal immigrants doing that is bad? They pay taxes (sales tax, property tax via rent, and income tax if they have a stolen ID), they buy things, they contribute labor. We’re spending money to deport and hold them. It’s all a net negative.
If the problem is that they are undocumented, then document them. Give them work visas. They don’t get the right to vote or have access to welfare systems with a work visa.
How many children of immigrants speak really good English? They usually translate for their parents in my experience. Which means they are assimilating to the culture. It also seems most time the first child might have a more ethnic name, the first grandchildren usually have more American names.
Illegal immigrants commit less crime per capita, which makes sense because if you are here illegally and do crime, you get deported after your sentence. They have a bigger incentive to not do crime.
America was built by immigrants, we’re known as the cultural melting pot. When did it become such a big deal and so restricted to enter the country? Our birth rates arent high enough to sustain us forever, we need immigration.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I agree. I would like to see a more robust legal immigration system too, but I don’t think that’s ever going to materialize.
There are some issues that are a golden goose for the two ruling parties, and the Republicans make a whole lot more money with immigration being illegal than they do if we have an immigration system that actually works. That’s money they can legally pocket by loaning cash to their campaigns at 20% interest, on top of taking “gifts” in exchange for lobbyist access, so they have a vested interest making sure it never changes.
With that said, this is what America voted for. We’re stuck with it.
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 22 hours ago
Along the northern border
Look, while most of the southern border rheroric is rooted in racism, I would say there is probably a bit of an issue there, just not nearly as terrible as these racist assholes keep pushing.
But Canada?
Are we pushing that Canada has a border issue now?
y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Its all those Canadians fleeing to the US for a better life and TERKIN ARE JERBS
/s
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I’m not pushing anything. I’m just make sense of a premature question, and I think most of the people who voted Trump want the border secured on both sides.
MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Do you think the dictator stuff isn’t alarming? Are you not made nervous by the attempt to determine the loyalty of LEO and the military to Trump rather than the USA?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
No. The judiciary’s acting to counter it, as it is designed to do.
Also, fascism is and has been a fact of life in America for decades. The Patriot Act is two decades old. Open torture in America is two decades old. Ferguson was ten years ago, and nothing changed. (except militarization of police got worse and now we have cop cities) Despite vast opposition to the genocide in Gaza, Biden made sure Israel got their WMD’s. Most people in America are working 2-3 jobs at upwards of 100 hours a week for the privilege of barely surviving in a roach-infested studio. School shootings are not only a more regular phenomenon, but now people want it to be legal for people to 3-D print their guns and have them be completely untraceable. Abortion is criminalized in Idaho and soon it will be in the majority of the US states due to Biden’s failure to act.
It’s hard for me to pretend that things have suddenly gotten worse when they’ve already been bad decades and it’s just that half of the population is always willing to ignore it because their guy is in charge.
y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
Might be out of the loop on this, but what is a “cop city”?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I think the best way to describe it is a dedicated militarization complex for cops. Here is the wikipedia on the one in Atlanta.
Kingofthezyx@lemm.ee 23 hours ago
The fact that you think that has anything to do with Trump shows how disingenuous or ignorant you are being. The ceasefire was reached while Biden was president, and the only thing Trump has done is reauthorize even bigger bombs for Israel.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
No reasonable person thinks Biden was the reason the ceasefire was reached, as the genocide continued until the literal final day of his presidency. There’s a very good reason why he had the nickname Genocide Joe, and that reason is that he did everything to earn it.
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 22 hours ago
Do you think Palestinians are relieved that Trump is POTUS now?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I couldn’t speak for them. I only know what I’ve read, like everyone else.
MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Trump supports most genocides. You can’t be as much of a Hitler stan as that guy is without backing a lot of racist genocides. For fucks sake his favorite President was Jackson.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I don’t think that’s actually true, if you look at his record.
Trump withdrew the US military from Syria and negotiated the end of the war in Afghanistan. I have no illusions about the fact that Trump likely personally profited in some way from those deals, but Democrats love their warmongering and opposed these. Obama was bombing seven countries at once (that we know of) when he left office. Biden enthusiastically helped Israel stack bodies until his literal final day in office.
There’s just no comparison.
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 22 hours ago
Imagine thinking Trump will do literally anything but bulldoze the Palestinians for hotel properties.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s nice to see Democratic voters finally pretending to care about genocide, even if it’s only out of political convenience.