Comment on What do you think of anarchism?

NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• naeap@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There is a difference between Anomie and anarchy

  Just because there are no leaders/rulers, doesn’t mean there are no social rules or morale values.

  A law doesn’t keep one from doing bad stuff.
  Else we wouldn’t have murderers.

  But society must grow and develop. At the current state anarchy probably wouldn’t work…

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  • breadcat@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    a law doesn’t keep one from doing bad stuff

    that’s true, they need to be enforced somehow…

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    • njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They’re enforced now but murder still happens.

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      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That doesn’t prove that not enforcing them would somehow make murder disappear, iust proves that you can’t absolutely eliminate a behavior. Every action has diminishing returns.

        I can remove some of the heat from an object by putting it in the fridge; . can remove more by putting it in the freezer, but that requires more energy. I can remove even more by using more and more sophisticated scientific equipment, but I can never reduce the temperature to absolute zero. That doesn’t mean the soda in my fridge isn’t colder than one on the counter.

        Perfect results aren’t obtainable except in trivial cases.

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    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      In anarchism, usually policing is handled rotationally, like most positions of authority.

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      • breadcat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        what do you do if there’s not enough people that want and are skilled enough to fill the positions

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• nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Unstructured societies always devolve into might makes right.

  you can’t prove this

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  • hisao@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Theoretically maybe, but empirically, humanity was completely unstructured at the beginning and currently not a single anarchist society exists. Why do you think everyone transformed into various kinds of nation-states eventually? Because nation-states were exceptionally good at filling that “power vacuum”. To overpower nation-states, something at least comparable is needed. Transnational corporations/syndicates/unions, something like that.

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    • nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      currently not a single anarchist society exists.

      that’s a lie

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      • jrs100000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Which ones? There are few places on Earth that are not under practical control of a formal government and legal system, and most of those places are either unpopulated or controlled by various local power brokers.

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      • hisao@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        In the context of previous message I meant anarchist society comparable to state, at least very small state. Not just a club of shared interests with members living their lives in regular nation-states. Do you have any examples in mind?

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    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      anarwiki.org/List_of_Anarchist_Societies

      Also, you list syndicates as an example, which is an anarchist belief.

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    • nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      humanity was completely unstructured at the beginning

      can you cite this?

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