Masculism is a movement against gender-based discrimination of men.
It may take many forms, and, unfortunately, some of them are quite clearly misogynistic. Similarly, some forms of radical feminism may get misandric at times.
Those are not the flavors of feminism and masculism I talk about, and those are clearly against the community rules.
Among those feminists and masculists that call for true gender equality, however, contradictions are unnecessary since the end goal is exactly the same.
!mensliberation@lemmy.ca is:
A community about men (!antisexism@lemmy.today is about everyone)
Openly focused on the feminist perspective, which, in my opinion, is limited because it only takes one angle.
Think of !antisexism@lemmy.today as an attempt to form a wider group (men, women, and nonbinary) exploring gender inequality from different angles.
To be honest, this is the first time, I heard that masculism is supposed to be more than slightly veiled anti-feminism. Maybe there are different roots for that expression? In Germany, the word is absolutely burned and every person calling themselvese masculinists are trash, as far I am aware of.
I think your idea about a community that wants to adress everybody by using the neutral term antisexism is a good idea, though.
That cultural context is super interesting. Here in the US I feel like I more often hear the shitty people of that type labeling themselves men’s rights advocates
It makes sense that different places would have picked up different terms for that movement and as such would cary that unpleasant connotation, but I hadn’t really thought about it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it gave me new things to think about :)
Allero@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Masculism is a movement against gender-based discrimination of men.
It may take many forms, and, unfortunately, some of them are quite clearly misogynistic. Similarly, some forms of radical feminism may get misandric at times.
Those are not the flavors of feminism and masculism I talk about, and those are clearly against the community rules.
Among those feminists and masculists that call for true gender equality, however, contradictions are unnecessary since the end goal is exactly the same.
!mensliberation@lemmy.ca is:
Think of !antisexism@lemmy.today as an attempt to form a wider group (men, women, and nonbinary) exploring gender inequality from different angles.
blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
To be honest, this is the first time, I heard that masculism is supposed to be more than slightly veiled anti-feminism. Maybe there are different roots for that expression? In Germany, the word is absolutely burned and every person calling themselvese masculinists are trash, as far I am aware of.
I think your idea about a community that wants to adress everybody by using the neutral term antisexism is a good idea, though.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Yeah, unfortunately, in the later years the term has been widely used by a lot of bigots to push something very different from the original idea.
Even Wikipedia now mentions both.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism
I only mean it in the original sense, and am happy that quite a few people agree that this community should have its place.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That cultural context is super interesting. Here in the US I feel like I more often hear the shitty people of that type labeling themselves men’s rights advocates
It makes sense that different places would have picked up different terms for that movement and as such would cary that unpleasant connotation, but I hadn’t really thought about it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it gave me new things to think about :)