Comment on Lemmy.zip Server Update February 2025
swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Thank you for all your work. I must remember to toss some coin your way.
improving Zippy to be much more talkative when something goes wrong with it
Crash recovery could be improved with a single flag/bool. Set when started. Unset as the last action before graceful shutdown. When starting, notify of crash if the flag is already set - or give normal start notification if the flag was flipped on normally by zippy.
That would make it less ambiguous.
blocking hexbear and lemmygrad (as two suggestions) upon account creation
I would wholeheartedly support a complete defed from hex, grad and ml if it’s possible. From what I have seen, their users bring little of value and much discontent.
Maybe even lemmit.online as well, considering it tends to just drive traffic away from Lemmy with no way for unified communication between Lemmy and what their bot has hauled in.
Make choices for the instance as a whole rather than per new user. Blunt, but effective. Would probably want a community vote - I talk a lot of shite.
There has also been talk of banning X links, another thing I would support.
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
In terms of a complete defed, one of the founding principles for lemmy.zip was not to just block other instances based on personal politics or beliefs (unless the other instances were doing something illegal). Rather it’s a gateway to the wider fediverse, and there are tools for people to instead control their own feeds (I.e. a user can defed themselves from another instance to a degree).
.ml also has a lot of large communities on it that I’d be hesistant to block until they’re moved away.
(I personally block the lemmit bot, I’m not opposed to a defed if they’re just creating spam from that instance)
New users might not be aware of the tools available (or even want to take the time to use them) so it might help lemmy growth to have some blocks in place at account creation - and then if people want to explore that content, they can choose to remove those blocks.
I am also not opposed to banning x links - appreciate wider feedback on this though.
gnu@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
I would generally prefer to see a screenshot of a xitter post rather than having to follow a link to it, for both my own ease of use and for reducing traffic to their site. However I do think a link to said xitter post should be able to be posted in either the body text under the screenshot or in a comment as a way to show the source of said screenshot.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I dislike the idea of defederating preemptively as well. Lemmy.zip has been such a great place for me because we are “friends” with almost every other instance, aside from the illegal ones of course. Giving the users the agenda to block themselves feels much better than yet another instance having a bunch of content blocked preemptively.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yes, and we have done before!
MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Is there an easy way to see what instances we are defederated from? (I fully support defedding any white supremacist instances, but also love transparency stuff about how the content I see is influenced)
TurtleSoup@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yea I just personally blocked the lemmit bot which made ml and lemmit much more… “Bearable”. Hexbear tho? I canned that instance after a few trips into it, some may find it bearable but it’s not for me. It toes a very fine line that I just don’t feel comfortable with, but hey, you do you.
If anything, if an instance is just 75% bot posting, I just silence it, especially a majority of the politic instances… I don’t need a bot spewing doom and gloom into my feeds at mach fuck.
For X links… I guess ban the links if you feel the need but maybe allow for screenshots of X posts since a lot of companies and emergency services use X for posting realtime information that doesn’t get posted elsewhere.
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
Thanks for the feedback - I peeked at the lemmit bot and yeah - madness.
Toying with the X thing, will see what the general consensus is before making any decisions.
TurtleSoup@lemmy.zip 22 hours ago
Yea I feel like some of the bots across multiple instances need to be toned back. Right now several of them, including lemmit.bot are just scraping anything that matches their search criteria and puking it out which leads to actual member posts being buried under the inundation of articles and headlines.
swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Just had the survey from zippy.
Can’t fault that for community engagement!
swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Given the principle, the used based preblocking + explainer will work better then 👍
I suppose nudging it on to the user also does a bit of self-filtering of good users from bad. Those who don’t use the tools aren’t really getting into Lemmy as it should be, are unlikely to contribute much, will probably have a bad experience, and then wander off. Vice-versa applies.
The pre-blocking itself pushes that principle, but in your position I think it’s a pragmatic choice and a difficult one to balance. Can’t say I envy your position!