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redut_nl@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

I can’t vote for Trump (I’m Dutch). Would have probably voted for him though. Another 4 years of Biden would have made Europe a socialists paradise. At least now there is some push back.

I don’t understand the ‘I will always support my president’ - maybe that’s a US thing. If you think the guy is a nutcase, why support him. The US is more than a president. Companies, states and people can thrive under bad management.

Not sure what to think of the Guantanamo Bay policy. If it is only used for low life criminals I am not too bothered with it. If it causes randomly sending illegals there and treating them inhumanly I wouldn’t support that.

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wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The point is that your guy doesn’t always win, but as a country, we need to support our leadership. Otherwise, nothing gets done, and people just bitch for four years.

That doesn’t mean you can’t disagree from time to time or vote against them, but the constant everything that person does is bad, is just counterproductive. Trump could cure the answer, and the left would still complain about it. That doesn’t help our country move forward.

On reddit there is a bot attack where people are saying let’s list all the MAGA places and stop doing business with them. It is funny when people realize many of the places they love and people they know supported Trump and they wouldn’t have anywhere to go if they stopped doing business with MAGA people.

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- redut_nl@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yeah, a good buddy of mine is a hardcore socialist and I am a libertarian. We sometimes talk politics and still have fun. Why not. Discuss and let the best argument win.
  
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  - wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Exactly. Most the time people will find commonality.
    
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    redut_nl@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Most important is a decent attitude and have the respect to listen to someones opinions. I don’t believe socialists are evil but I do believe a lot of their policies are. Even if the intention is good. I am a libertarian but not an anarchist so that means I do believe there is a role for governments. I think that’s an interesting start for a friendly conversation with anyone 🍻
    
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Doom@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
what does Marxist mean to you

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