They changed/updates the article. The link has the original headline in it.
Comment on Brazil condemns US after deportees arrive handcuffed
kerrigan778@lemmy.world 3 days agoThat link seems to suggest they then immediately caved and are now doing the opposite. Also, why would it be right to not let your own citizens back into the country after they get sent home? What, they’re supposed to say we don’t want them just put them into ghettos I guess?
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 days ago
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yeah, I keep reading about the rejections and thinking about how many people might have lived if the rest of the world had just accepted the deported Jews from Germany.
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
what about if the world had tackled the threat of Hitler sooner? do you think MORE caving in and capitulation was the lesson we should have learned?
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I think taking people who need a place to be is a primary step. You can do both.
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
A fair point. I hope we do.
Sl00k@programming.dev 3 days ago
The big issue here is they’re being treated as criminals who committed violent crimes and it’s a disgusting sight for everyone involved except racists. A lot of these people are innocent people, some who have been here for over 15-20 years and have entire lives and families in the US.
That’s why most of the talks here were around Colombia sending their Presidential plane to pick up their citizens. They weren’t rejecting the people, they were rejecting the way in which it was done.
yeather@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
The issue with this is, they are criminals. Entering the country without proper documentation or overstaying a visa is a crime. Columbia and Brazil can complain all they want about how they are being treated as criminals, it doesn’t change the fact that they are.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
It’s a minor offense. Carrying a small fine and 6 months in jail.
How does that justify treating them as violent criminals?
yeather@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
They aren’t being treated as violent prisoners, they are being treated as prisoners. Military aircraft are being used for their very large carrying capacity, and handcuffs are used on the actually violent people, not everyone.
gramie@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
We are all guilty of crimes at some point. Maybe speeding, or parking somewhere without permission, driving when you may be intoxicated, taking some office supplies home, not noticing that your license plate had expired, a million other things.
The point is that any one of us could be arrested and convicted if the authorities decided it was worth their while to.
You are in favor of these people being deported without even judicial review, because you are in no danger of being harmed by the government’s actions. Yet.
yeather@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
People are given parking tickets, liscense suspensions, citations and fines all the time, if you illegally enter the country and are caught, you get deported.
BigMacHole@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I AGREE that overstaying your Visa is a Crime! UNLESS You’re Rich in which case you’re allowed to Buy the Presidency even if you overstay your Visa!
yeather@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Oh Elon should fuck off too, he is actively damaging important government institutions.
HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
The issue with this is, they are people. Entering the country without proper documentations or overstaying a visa does not change that. The US can complain all it wants about the rest of the world wanting them to treat these people with basic dignity, it doesn’t change the fact they deserve their basic dignity.
yeather@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
I would say they are, the deported people aren’t being starved, nor mistreated. They commited the crime and are now being caught and deported as punishment for said crime.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Were they convicted of a crime? If you’re gonna be technical, you smug little shit, you technically have to be convicted of a crime to be a criminal. None of them were, so they weren’t criminals.
yeather@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
“ If caught within 100 miles of the U.S. border, where U.S. Customs and Border Protection (“CBP”) patrols, they can place you in expedited removal proceedings; in other words, deport you quickly, without a hearing.
If caught deeper within the United States, you will likely be placed into removal proceedings in immigration court and charged with being either “removable” or “inadmissible” under U.S. immigration law. Prior to the first court hearing, called a “master calendar” hearing, you should receive a Notice to Appear (“NTA”), along with charging documents and a Notice of Hearing in Removal Proceedings. These documents will state the immigration-related charges against you and the date and time to appear in immigration court. “
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Mods ban me if you must:
GIVING KILL YOURSELF.
I’M SO FUCKING SICK OF NAZIS IN EVERY POST ON EVERY FUCKING WEBSITE.
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I endorse this comment.
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Sadly the problem isn’t going to solve itself like that. We need to channel that anger into action.