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Comment on Norway on track to be first to go all-electric

Well we just had snow sweep across the eastern US last week, nowhere near as cold as Norway, and just that was enough to brick the cars and freeze up the charging stations to the point of barely working. So let us know where you all are getting these magic batteries.

We also had EV’s catching fire in the southern US throughout the summer. Not sure why the anti-hydrogen crowd is dead set on us forcing EV’s into these environments where it’s problematic.

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Bronzie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
The exact same batteries as you have in your EV’s, which is why you are either ill-informed or lying. I am guessing it’s the first, so I am arguing in good faith.

Just take a step back: A country with 5,5 million people and 93% of all new cars are EV’s. Who has more knowledge on how they work in the cold? You, my new found friend on Lemmy, or us?
Not trying to be snarky, but we drive them every single day in winter. Batteries do not need to be heated to work, so please stop spreading this lie.
They DO however need a certain battery temp to charge, but that’s a different discussion.

I’m not arguing against hydrogen cars. I am just correcting some if the claims you have made.

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- surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  youtu.be/tzrUkgbVoro?si=egSXiCGrze6lZWIt
  
  nytimes.com/…/tesla-charging-chicago-cold-weather…
  
  npr.org/…/teslas-chicago-charging-extreme-cold
  
  Guess all of these people are in on the conspiracy?
  
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  - Bronzie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Did you read your own links at all before sending them?
    
    Tesla owners line up, hoping to get a charge.
    
    You need more chargers. Not the cars fault.
    
    A charge that should take 45 minutes is taking two hours.
    
    Yes, like I said: cold batteries charge slower. This is well known. Drive a bit before expecting to push 200 kW into a frozen battery. I’ve ghit my max (155 kW) many times.
    
    Other drivers spoke about how the cold seemed to drain their batteries more quickly than normal.
    
    Also well known. All cars use more energy to heat up the cabin in winter, including ICE vehicles.
    
    Other Tesla drivers report no issues.
    
    Crazy, it works for some. Maybe they have these magical batteries you accused us of having?
    
    “We do get less mileage on the battery in extreme temps which means we have to charge more often” in the cold, she added.
    
    Which nobody ever denied being true.
    
    The problems that are being reported this week seem to center on long lines at Supercharger stations, Maslan said. But she adds that in nearly 10 years of owning a Tesla, she’s never had to wait for a Supercharger slot. Other than being mindful of the potential for reduced range, she concluded, “I’ve never had a problem driving the car due to the cold.”
    
    Incredible! Her car must be exported from Norway! Zero issues in 10 years, just like we experience here! Unbelieveable.
    
    I’m out of this argument now. You have demonstrated that you have absolutely zero knowledge of how EV’s work and you are a waste of everybodys time and energy.
    Stay clueless and ignorant, I don’t really care, but for anyone reading this in the future: surph_ninja literally argued batteries don’t work in the cold in a thread about EV’s being sold in the frozen hellhole called Norway. The irony is incredible.
    
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    surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    You’re having trouble sticking to a lane. Is it ‘there are no issues’ or ‘the issues are known’?
    
    These known issues are not a problem for hydrogen.
    
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