Comment on Germany hits 62.7% renewables in 2024 energy mix, with solar contributing 14%

JelleWho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No, worse, they labeled it as green. Naziland never fails to be on the wrong side of history

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• daddy32@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes it was, but I can’t find the sources now. It was some time after the recent invasion of Ukraine by the eastern hordes; titles were something like "Germany reclasified natural gas as renewable’. My memory fails me, so it may have been different gas and different purpose than electricity. Anyway, it came as a very poor taste.

  In other news, Germany imports quite some percentage of its electricity from other countries, like nuclear-produced electricity from France. So, in a sense and to a degree, it outsources the emissions to other countries.

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  • DrunkenPirate@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In other news, Germany imports quite some percentage of its electricity from other countries, like nuclear-produced electricity from France. So, in a sense and to a degree, it outsources the emissions to other countries.

    That is simply not true. You might get an update of the actual state of energy production AND imports va exports here: pv-magazine.com/…/germany-hits-62-7-renewables-in…

    My memory fails me, so it may have been different gas and different purpose than electricity. Anyway, it came as a very poor taste.

    Even this is not true or just blabla at least. It’s Biogas, gas made out of animals poo, plants and other degradable things.

    I strongly suggest that you either check sources before posting a comment. Or just stay quite instead „there was something I heard somewhere…“

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    • daddy32@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Found the source (if wiki can be considered):

      It was NOT bio gas, it was Natural gas (i.e. russian gas).

      Natural gas is seen by some countries as the bridge between coal and renewable energy, and those countries argue for natural gas to be considered sustainable under a set of conditions.[47] Germany in particular was a strong supporter towards its inclusion in the taxonomy, moreover advancing a request to the Commission to further ease environmental restrictions on its use.

      euractiv.com/…/germany-takes-firm-pro-gas-stance-…

      Now piss off with the revisionism.

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    • daddy32@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Electricity imports also rose to 24.9 TWh, driven by lower generation costs in neighboring countries during summer. France (12.9 TWh), Denmark (12.0 TWh),…

      True.

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• woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wasn’t Germany that weird one where ‘gas’ was labeled as ‘renewable’?

  Biogas from decomposition is renewable. That definition is accepted internationally.

  • www.eia.gov/…/landfill-gas-and-biogas.php

  • www.britannica.com/technology/biogas

  Doesn’t mean it’s ecological. There’s a difference.

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  • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Depends on whether you grow crops specifically to turn into fuel or ferment waste that would otherwise ferment in the open.

    The main point on the European level revolved around whether construction of gas plants should get access to some green fund or the other, to which the answer is yes because they’ll always carry some on-demand load, and seasonal storage is bound to include syngas because we’ll need that stuff anyway as chemical feedstock.

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• DrunkenPirate@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not that was France labeling Nuclear as Renewable. Because, because it doesn’t emit CO2, I guess. Don’t know what „Re-New“ translates into French and I‘d be surprised if it is „Split Atoms“.

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  • Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuck off, France did this in reaction to Germany trying to pass gas as green (not renewable!)

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