Comment on I never realized this

• spujb@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  yep and it’s good that opinion stays unpopular

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• shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  you could swap the subject of criticism with “the devil” in any sentence and it would be the same though?

  “the devil (covid-19) caused a pandemic”

  “the devil (billionaires) is pushing more people into poverty”

  “the devil (adhd) is making me procrastinate doing the dishes”

  “the devil (you) has really weak criticisms of feminism, since if only he read about it, he’d realise he can see and feel the effects of the patriarchy everywhere. and the way he talks right now makes me believe he only knows the concept from strawman memes”

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  • spujb@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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    • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Which feminists are you even referring to exactly? There are different waves of feminism and different strands (like liberal feminism, marxist feminism, black feminism, …). Either you picked a few straw(wo)men who have a shitty definition or you are confused by the variety of definitions and approaches and that confuses you.

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      • spujb@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        my comment was about @rooty who said “Patriarchy as defined by feminists is a nebulous and unfalsifiable concept” not you or anyone else. because of course, people who actually read any wave or subsect of feminism will immediately find feminists have a whole host of concrete and evidenced conceptions of the term patriarchy.

        i was seeking to laugh at @rooty who has clearly never done any work to listen to any feminist and gets all their undestanding of it from straw man memes.

        it seems people like yourself are misunderstanding my language to mean the opposite, sorry for any confusion.

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  • Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    In these examples you used “the devil” as a placeholder for explainable phenomena with varying causes, none of them being unfalsifiable. Now consider the following sentence:

    “The wage gap is causes by the patriarchy” – Surely there are no complex causes being substituted by a nebulous concept here, is it?

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      the concept is only “nebulous” to people who are talking out of their asses, when they haven’t even bothered to look past the word definition and strawman memes about the patriarchy

      man, please, stop making yourself look like a fool, go read about it, it’s really not that hard

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      • spujb@lemmy.cafe ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        none of us would judge you @Rooty@lemmy.world if you picked up and perused this free copy of Feminism is for Everybody by bell hooks right now. in fact that would be really cool.

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• lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I donno but this sounds like something the devil would say

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