Comment on One in five Australian renters are living without essential items and in poverty, peak body study finds

• hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In this release, ‘migrants’ refers to people who have arrived in Australia since January 2000, and includes permanent migrants who have become Australian citizens during this period.

  Is that a peculiar way to be refered to. When is an Australian citizen not a migrant ?

  Yeah that ‘average salary’ is lies damned lies and statistics

  Only if you don’t understand the difference between avergae (mean) and median. A kid working at Maccas twice a week can skew the diffeence as much as the repugnant wage paid to the Macquaire Bank CEO.

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• Cypher@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When you break it down by region it makes a bit more sense but plenty of people are still doing it tough.

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• Nath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I admit that I was surprised that $80k was median salary - I just asked Google “Median Salary Australia” and didn’t follow the links etc. Your source is great, but three financial years old. Seek reckon the current median salary is $65k, though their ads probably skew a tad high. It isn’t enough of a difference from $58k to argue much over.

  $58k or $65k (or even $80k), it doesn’t change the point I was making: It is not at all surprising that people are doing it tough.

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  • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    oh I wasn’t disagreeing with you, just pointing out the disingenuousness of “average wages”. Stick musk and ten unemployed people in a room and the average person in there earns billions. We really need to kill that shit, it’s used to infer that people are doing it rough due to “poor choices” rather than we’re all middle class citizens absolutely taking it up the arse without lube

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  • imoldgreeeg@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah there are a couple of metrics. The main two are the median salary of all adults which includes a lot of people not in the workforce (zero wage) and then the median salary for anyone “employed” (working any hours) which would be higher.

    Dunno what the latest number are but at a guess mid 50s looks like the total median and 80ish is the median of job holders

    (.median is used because mean is skewed by outliers like billionaires. Median means half of the people measured are below and half above)

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• Mirshe@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Average salary metrics are useless in an era of CEOs and executives getting paid millions a year.

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