Comment on It's pretty cruel, particularly for non-native English speakers, that 'lose' and 'loose' seemingly switched spellings, meanings and pronunciations with each other when no one was looking

• darkdemize@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No one? They aren’t pronounced the same in any accent that I’m aware of.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re probably thinking of the pronunciation of close as in ‘close to you’

    I was thinking of the pronunciation of close as in ‘close the door’

    Which is pronounced the same as clothes.

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    • corvi@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those still aren’t pronounced the same. The th in clothes isn’t silent.

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      • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Huh? I have lived in every corner and the middle of the United States and I have never heard anyone pronounce the TH in clothes no matter the accent. It always sounds like close as in to close the door.

        Unless you are thinking of cloths, as in a pile of wash cloths.

        English kinda sucks sometimes.

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      • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not sure where you’re from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced any different than ‘close’.

        Now if it’s said as ‘clothing’, the th is indeed pronounced. But not for ‘clothes’. And I’ve worked at a clothing store before.

        You might be thinking of the word ‘cloths’, which indeed does pronounce the th.

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      • 0ops@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I pronounce the th sometimes, but not always, depends how fast I’m talking

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    • Eiri@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Close isn’t always pronounced the same?!

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      • teft@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sit close to me vs close the door

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    • darkdemize@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bingo.

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  • teft@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Even the second one isn’t pronounced the same. Some accents drop the th sound in clothes which is why they can sound similar.

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• CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They sound pretty close to me. We can close this issue.

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• SandLight@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t know that they sound that different, but I definitely pronounce them differently in that my tongue is in a different party of my mouth for both of them. When I say clothes, my tongue is near touching my front teeth, where as close is more just below that ridge behind my teeth, so farther back.

  I’m from the center of the U.S. for reference.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I had half my jaw ripped open when I was 16 or so. So I guess I’m lucky to pronounce or enunciate anything correctly these days.

    Southern Mississippi, if that means squat.

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    • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah Mississippi will do that to you.

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• samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They aren’t universally, just in certain dialects. I pronounce the “th” just like with “clothing.”

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