Comment on Anon questions our energy sector

NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• SARGE@startrek.website ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s the “Burning other magic rocks” party.

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• drake@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nuclear isn’t in competition with fossil fuels, it’s in competition with renewables. Renewables are better than nuclear by pretty much every conceivable metric. So fuck nuclear power, it’s a waste of money and time.

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fact: that is a fake statement.

    Nuclear is not renewables competition.

    Nuclear provides a base line energy production.

    Both renewables and fossils produce a variable production line.

    So within a rational production scheme the choice is nuclear+renewables or fossils+renewables. As renewables by themselves cannot work. Because there is months over the year when it’s not sunny, not rainy and not windy enough, what do we do for those months? We close humanity during those months because some political dogma says so?

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    • Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Since we are talking hypotheticals, an ideal scenario would be a nearly completely renewables approach where each household is its own self contained energy production center equippef with solar arrays, wind turbines, thermoelectric generators. Various means of production. And have either propane or diesel as a backup. Most importantly a big battery array for storing energy long term during bad weather.

      Most household electrical wiring is redone for DC transmission and all consumer appliances possible are run straight on DC for optimal efficency. Energy efficent heat pumps for cooling and heating. energy efficent cooking appliances like induction heaters. Electric cars that act as backup battery banks would be awesome.

      Humanity simply does not “stop” because we run out of non-renewable electrical energy. We did fine enough before the industrial revolution, the Amish do fine now, backwoods countrymen do fine now, and renewables + energy efficent consumer devices have improved a bunch.

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  • oce@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are you sure renewables don’t require more extracted resources and more land usage per quantity of energy produced?

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    • drake@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      yes

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• iii@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That, and the green parties (at least in EU).

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  • oce@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like people are interpreting your comment with an American view. As a fellow European I agree, NGOs like Greenpeace are also to blame, and I don’t think those are financed by fossil fuel lobbies.

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    • iii@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hadn’t made that connection. Thank you

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  • Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The “green” parties 💵💵

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, oil oiled the “green” anti-nuclear protests.

    You can tell thats how it was because the cops didn’t beat them as much (or in some big cases at all) as they do even the most insignificant anti-oil protesters.

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