Comment on All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU

• sebinspace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I personally prefer my bluetooth headphones, but it’s not like bluetooth and jacks can’t exist on the same device…

  Plus, pairing bluetooth in a car can be annoying as fuck. Looking at you, Nissan

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  • Mdotaut801@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I feel like BT pairing and functionality in cars has always been shit. I have issues in my 2020 Ford, had issues in my 2015 and 2018 bmws, and my gf has issues in her Toyota.

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    • limelight79@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      BT pairing in our Ram works fine, and it works fine with the aftermarket Pioneer radio in my car. I’ve never had a major issue with either one with any phone I’ve owned, iPhone or Android.

      For our Mazda, though, BT pairing does not work reliably with my Samsung S21 - it’s okay for phone calls (in fact, the car “steals” my calls if I’m on the phone at home and my wife gets home with the car), but for music it almost never works correctly, unless I’m also using Android Auto, which is rare because I just don’t need it for most day-to-day drives. The BT phone and music works fine for my wife’s iPhone, though.

      I blame the car - my phone works just fine with several sets of Bluetooth headsets, and the other two car stereos. I think Mazda just didn’t bother to do any debugging before they shipped that piece of shit to the dealers. (This theory is based on other bugs we’ve found in the infotainment system as well.)

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    • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Because they do the bare minimum to meet the spec so that they could advertise it then. They still do the bare minimum now.

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  • macrocephalic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I want a headphone jack, but the truth is that I can’t remember the last time I used mine. I have an old phone plugged into an old amp that I can play Spotify through, otherwise I use bt.

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  • KCN@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, they could coexist. I’m partial to non-bluetooth, but only because they come in shapes that I find more comfortable, and I’ve yet to find bluetooth ones that don’t make my ears hurt

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    • Mdotaut801@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You know there’s ways you can change that, right? There’s different sizes you can get for the piece that goes in your ear and they often come with the headphones/ear buds.

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      • KCN@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes, I just haven’t found any that I found comfortable with yet

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• Psiczar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Headphone jacks are a 19th century invention, if having them restricts innovation then I am all for removing them.

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  • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We can’t only consider innovation today, we also have to consider its ecological impact. Jack plugs and headphones are way more durable than Bluetooth equivalent. I have 16 yo jack headset that still works perfectly, I only had to change the cushions twice.

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    • brb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s specifically the wire that always breaks first. How can they be more durable?

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      • ne0phyte@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You can repair a broken cable fairly easily.

        When you buy wireless headphones you know upfront that they will die within a few years and you will not be able to replace the tiny glued in, oddly shaped batteries they come with.

        I like the convenience of BT at times, but I really miss having headphone jacks and hate having to bring adaptors with me.

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      • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If you can financially, buy (second-hand) higher-end material, it will come with stronger wires and stronger connections.
        For example, see the difference in the constraints damper on these cables:

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        and Apple’s:

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        Jack being simple technology, it’s also very easy to get it repaired by the nearby tech enthusiast armed with a soldering iron.

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    • Psiczar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So stop making any technological advancement because of the potential impact of e-waste? Not saying it’s a bad thing but it will have have its own environmental implications. No new energy development, we have to rely on existing oil and nuclear technology rather than investing in making renewable energy sources cheaper and more efficient.

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      • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not an either-or, we can do both at the same time, we just have to consider environmental impact as an essential component of innovation.

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      • Contend6248@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        At the point we are at, yes we have to make a major change, e-waste is an immense problem for many years and we are only starting to fight it.

        Inventions not thinking about e-waste at all shouldn’t be allowed anymore.

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  • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So are speakers and batteries.

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    • Psiczar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      True, but we don’t have any practical alternatives for them.

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      • PeachMan@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What’s the practical alternative to headphone jacks? Bluetooth is crap and carrying around extra dongles is annoying.

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  • KCN@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Technically 20th century, if I’m not mistaken? I just don’t see how they would restrict innovation, I guess

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    • Psiczar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Apparently it’s based on a plug invented in 1878, according to the BBC.

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      • KCN@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Interesting! It’s cool to know how stuff we use/used was developed

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      • LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        By that logic let’s just replace the most superior household plug. The 3 pin UK plug.

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  • rambaroo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A “19th century” technology that objectively produces better sound quality and uses less energy. And I already have wired earbuds and headsets.

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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unless there’s an alternative, no it’s not restricting innovation.

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• samsy@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The argument was saving space for other parts. That’s true in a way. But if things needed we should have this space. What’s next? Saving the space of the charger? /s

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