Comment on So Long WordPress.

ravhall@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Whoever can see through WordPress’s spaghetti code must be a genius.

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  • actually@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, regular intelligence is all I needed. I made over a dozen plugins ( private not sold ) . I no longer have to maintain most.

    One can pick up patterns, and the hooks get intuitive.

    It’s not a bad framework, for the 1990s. It lacks many things, and God help anyone who wants to put a lot of data in it, or have multiple instances. It can be done , but omg.

    And don’t get me started on the bad and lazy work seen in many of the popular plugins .

    This is what a lot of the world depends on for day to day existence

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    • ravhall@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Word press nowadays has the problem of maintaining backwards compatibility. If they would just breakdown and redo it, they could probably build a decent system while also keeping it easy to use. Sure, there are lots of alternatives at this point but they have the audience. The world would be a better place for it.

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      • actually@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think the value of Wordpress is its ecosystem of tens of thousand of plugins. They cannot rewrite it without breaking many of them

        The other value of Wordpress is its low entry barrier for writing plugins. One does not need to code well to write a plugin, and often plugins are abandoned-ware, or close. Many of these badly written abandoned plugins are vital to thousands of sites, or more.

        Broke plugins stay broken .

        By definition wp must never change too much, ever

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  • SplashJackson@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mom’s spaghetti?

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  • ravhall@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tossing more spaghetti onto spaghetti!!

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• Pechente@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  While there are quite a few agencies and solo devs that click their sites together using crap like Elementor and a bunch of no name plugins that could often be replaced by a single line of code, there are also people building building clean maintainable sites with it.

  That said, I usually don’t pick it for my projects. Kirby CMS is a much more flexible alternative. For anything more complex there’s Laravel with Filament to build a nice admin panel.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    there are also people building clean maintainable sites with it.

    Any examples? I want to know what counts as a clean WP site.

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    • Pechente@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People really seemed to like this site I made a while ago and it performs well. But really any Wordpress site can be built well if with something like ACF and a custom coded theme.

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  • cygnus@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Kirby

    I wish they had agency pricing. Buying a license for every install is a bit much.

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