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• IzzyScissor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Being “natural” is not an indicator of “good” or “bad”.

  Cyanide is natural. Eyeglasses are unnatural.

  Maybe pick better metrics for society.

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  • Disgracefulone@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “What does cyanide have to do with eating to survive?” It doesn’t - exactly like eating meat. You don’t need either to survive, and both are completely “natural”.

      By saying that “partaking in natural things should be free from judgement”, you’re also arguing that we shouldn’t judge someone when they commit murder, rape, incest, and a whole slew of morally objectionable things because those things happen to also exist in nature.

      If you meant that, you’re too far gone to have a reasonable conversation. If that’s not what you meant, then you need to rephrase your argument because “natural” does not mean “good”.

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• loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Calm down - noone tried to take away your glorious piece of dead flesh.

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  • Disgracefulone@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve never met one. But when people find out, you are vegan, everyone starts shoving their expertise, defense, aggression or at least either the fact, that they don’t eat meat that often or that they could not live without meat and that its their genetics basically making their body NEED meat and that’s why they crave/eat it.

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    • Teppichbrand@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Vegan Bullshit Bingo #7

      Veganism is like a religion

      That sounds like an attempt at discrediting Veganism as unreasonable and irrational, just to not seriously deal with it. As Veganism is based on facts, logic and common sense, it is the exact opposite of a religion. Consuming animal products though, mostly means blindly following irrational traditions and ignoring the facts or refusing them by reasoning: “That’s how we’ve always done it”. That sounds more like a religion to me…

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• Teppichbrand@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not natural period

  The three N’s of Justification:
  Eating meat is natural, necessary and normal. Check this video on carnism.

  To each their own

  Vegan Bullshit Bingo #6: Food is everbody’s personal choice
  How can something that others literally gave their lives for be a personal choice? Food nowadays is globally produced and distributed and affects - like most of our decisions - many more parties and beings, such as animals and our entire ecosystem. The taste of of music you have is a personal choice. The freedom to choose what we consume though, should not limit the freedom of others. Be it through animal exploitation, destruction of ecosystems, inhumane working conditions in the animal industry, zoonoses and pandemics, multidrug resistant pathogens, waste of resources and further consequences, that lead others to suffer.

  but I can’t stand the vegans that try to put others down for eating meat

  Nature is kill or be killed and has been since the dawn of time. Everything eats everything else.

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