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Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 weeks ago“Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.”
Disgracefulone@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Being “natural” is not an indicator of “good” or “bad”.
Cyanide is natural. Eyeglasses are unnatural.
Maybe pick better metrics for society.
Disgracefulone@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“What does cyanide have to do with eating to survive?” It doesn’t - exactly like eating meat. You don’t need either to survive, and both are completely “natural”.
By saying that “partaking in natural things should be free from judgement”, you’re also arguing that we shouldn’t judge someone when they commit murder, rape, incest, and a whole slew of morally objectionable things because those things happen to also exist in nature.
If you meant that, you’re too far gone to have a reasonable conversation. If that’s not what you meant, then you need to rephrase your argument because “natural” does not mean “good”.
loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Calm down - noone tried to take away your glorious piece of dead flesh.
Disgracefulone@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’ve never met one. But when people find out, you are vegan, everyone starts shoving their expertise, defense, aggression or at least either the fact, that they don’t eat meat that often or that they could not live without meat and that its their genetics basically making their body NEED meat and that’s why they crave/eat it.
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Vegan Bullshit Bingo #7
Veganism is like a religion
That sounds like an attempt at discrediting Veganism as unreasonable and irrational, just to not seriously deal with it. As Veganism is based on facts, logic and common sense, it is the exact opposite of a religion. Consuming animal products though, mostly means blindly following irrational traditions and ignoring the facts or refusing them by reasoning: “That’s how we’ve always done it”. That sounds more like a religion to me…
Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The three N’s of Justification:
Eating meat is natural, necessary and normal. Check this video on carnism.
Vegan Bullshit Bingo #6: Food is everbody’s personal choice
How can something that others literally gave their lives for be a personal choice? Food nowadays is globally produced and distributed and affects - like most of our decisions - many more parties and beings, such as animals and our entire ecosystem. The taste of of music you have is a personal choice. The freedom to choose what we consume though, should not limit the freedom of others. Be it through animal exploitation, destruction of ecosystems, inhumane working conditions in the animal industry, zoonoses and pandemics, multidrug resistant pathogens, waste of resources and further consequences, that lead others to suffer.
Nature is kill or be killed and has been since the dawn of time. Everything eats everything else.