I’m ateist just to be clear, but it’s undeniable that the path that lead to science stems from academia and univirsities rules and funded by clergy.
Leibniz was a fervent (or rather, average for the time) believer and bended backward to include God in each and any of his hypothesis about the world (so much so that in front of the logical necessities of motion he posited that God planned it all in advance, incuding some funny stuff about each of us being already alive in the ballsacks of our ancestors, to go around the fact that I wouldn’t be “godlike” to just spawn new souls every couple of seconds). He invented calculus and mechanical calculators and the likes.
Newton was basically an astrologer.
Bruno hypotized the existence of multiple worlds in space and, to him, that was cool because it meant the domain of God was even wider than previously thought. The Church of the Earth did not like that idea.
On the other hand, Saint Thomas and Saint Agustine both brought back the (relatively) modern approaches of Aristotles and Plato respectively, with a focus on reason as a driving force.
I could agree to disagree but I assume we’d both hate that.
scarabic@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Since literally everyone could be described as a believer in the past that’s not what I meant. We started with the word “theologian” and yes I assume any reasonable definition of that word is going to have high, high overlap with the clergy, with perhaps some exceptions.
You lost me, friend. I’m not even sure we can agree to disagree at this point. I’m just going to back away slowly…
dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 month ago
You can run but you cannot hide: wikiless.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_occult_studies?l…
And no, the people I mentioned moved theology in different directions, they actually did study and engaged with it.
#sorrynotsorry
scarabic@lemmy.world 1 month ago
When your source throws a browser security warning, you automatically lose.
dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 month ago
I can’t lose or win this is not a fight.
Here you go, a different instance. It’s just wikipedia BTW: wiki.froth.zone/…/Isaac_Newton's_occult_studies?l…