Comment on Meta fined $102 million for storing passwords in plain text

• joshcodes@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This just doesn’t hold up in 2024. BMW charge you 60k for a vehicle and chuck a subscription on top. Apple, Google and Samsung charge between hundreds and thousands for their phones and advertise with their own agencies. Amazon forces paying customers to wade through bullshit products to finally buy the one they want, customers who bought prime and who didn’t.

  Everyone is the product even if you pay. Stop saying this please.

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• Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Well now even when you pay you’re the product.

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• Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I haven’t paid for Lemmy yet. Well, other than volunteer time.

  I guess if we want something where we’re not the product, we have to build it ourselves.

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  • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Even with any potential monetization by anyone… you kind of are? You are part of the community here, and that’s what people come here for. Lemmy’s community is the product it offers, and you are a piece of it.

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    • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wish more people on Reddit and Twitter would recognize that and use more discretion with who they’re creating a product for.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What makes you so sure that the person hosting your instance isn’t monetizing it or trying to find a way to monetize it in the background?

    Maybe they’re selling all these posts and DMs to OpenAI?

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    • WarMarshalEmu@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They don’t need to sell access… It’s free. Assume anything you post here is getting sniffed up by everyone.

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    • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lemmy.world is a registered non-profit organization. fedihosting.foundation/about-us/

      It’s easy enough to use the API to scrape the site and use all the posts and DMs for free. It’d be odd for OpenAI to pay for it.

      Please do recognize that anything you post publicly IS public, whether that’s Facebook or here. The lack of an API isn’t going to stop places from scraping your data off of Facebook or Reddit either.

      Your DMs here are explicitly public. That’s part of the federation between servers. If you want truly private DMs, there are options for that.

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not that I DMd people, but I don’t think I knew that, so that’s good to know.

        But also don’t mistake a not for profit as not being able to do something to aquire money to help pay for itself or the salaries of it’s people. They could absolutely be looking for ways to monetize this to a certain extent.

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