Comment on I make games and this literally happened to me this morning

• ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  They don’t. Their payouts leaked a couple years ago, of the thousands of streamers there’s a few hundred that make minimum wage or better. This pattern holds true for YouTube, only fans, etc.

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  • fushuan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s way more than a few hundred. What leaked was the twitch subscriber payout, which doesn’t count all the money spent on bits. Then there’s also sponsorships and youtube content.

    I follow several Path of Exile streamers, and when that released they said that that was not the total payout. They usually do some video guides of builds for the game that, alongside twitch generates content for them. Then there’s also sponsors for gaming rigs and other kind of stuff, sponsors to try new games… Maybe it’s PoE specifically but even streamers that oscillate between 200-800, maybe 1k viewers when there’s no other PoE streamer online earned more that minimum wage with just the twitch payout (given the country they live in ofc).

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    • lorty@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      For every streamer that makes minimum wage there are dozens that make so little they don’t even get paid.

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      • fushuan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s still more than a few hundred. I don’t remember how big the leaked doc was but it wasn’t in the thousands, it was bigger. Your statement can be true while the statement of the one I responded to be incorrect at the same time.

        I mean, you comment is true and refutes nothing I said.

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    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      How often are those small streamers the only one though? Having times where you do almost ok aren’t that great if you make nothing 30% of your streaming time.

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      • fushuan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Given that the leak was the annual earnings from subs your question is irrelevant since it shows that the total average amounts enough.

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• Road_Warrior_10@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I can’t even begin to understand how hard it is to make it on Twitch. I assume probably the top 1000 streamers make the real money and the rest 99,5% probably make like $50 per month…

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  • RiQuY@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I streamed for like a year and a half+ and I only managed to reach the 50$ treshold to cash out 2 times, so yeah, it’s very rough.

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    • Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I streamed for 2 years and I got 5 viewers at once that one time my friend raided me.

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      • RiQuY@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        My average was between 2 and 3 viewers.

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    • dwindling7373@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Do they just, make the money disappear if you don’t reach the 50 or do they add up till you reach 50?

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      • RiQuY@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They save it.

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  • moody@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    For most people, it’s a hobby for fun, not a job.

    Those that want to make a job out of it tend to spread out the content creation to youtube and tiktok, and often sponsorships fill in the gaps.

    The ones that actually make a decent living only from streaming are a fraction of one percent.

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• Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  subscribers and something called bits of which i dont know the purpose.

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  • Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Bits are basically donations.

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