Comment on Google Serves AI Slop as Top Result for One of the Most Famous Paintings in History

LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• Plum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s worth a little digging..

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Ty will check out

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• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Which perfectly exposes the problems with showing AI slob to people who try to learn and extend their horizons.

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s just a painting, it’s not exactly science or history or philosophy or any knowledge that can extend one’s horizons, it’s more about a choice of mobile wallpaper, and I’m not enough of a consoomer to care about that.

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    • kat_angstrom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Expanding ones horizons absolutely does and should include art history, which is a part of human history.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Meh. Art history - sure! Books, writing, films, music.

        Paintings though are a bit more dodgy. Most of the ‘classical’ paintings (in the renaissance and baroque periods) were created through a system of patronage by monarchs, if not for a selfish ego-boost of endless royal portraiture, then as a strategic move to enhance the prestige of the monarchy to it’s neighbours.

        Of course, music is often guilty of this too. Bach’s famous struggles with securing patronage for instance, but due to its more abstract nature, it is probably a better source of information about the author than a painting about the painter.

        It will hardly inform you of what the people or the world was like at the time, but rather what the monarchs wanted to project, which of course is helpful too for understanding the political situation at the time, but it’s hardly an efficient way to acquire that information, nor do the ideas gained from such exploration likely to lead to concrete conclusions.

        Kind of like judging a people by their government’s propaganda department commissions.

        What is interesting though is the fact that AI art, and the LAION-5B dataset used to train the models is a true and earnest reflection of sorts of what images today really are, from works of art to private commissions for furries etc to plain stock photos and other corporate graphics.

        It’s an interesting reality check to compare the kinds of images your mind conjures connected to an idea and the kinds of images stable diffusion produces instead, it’s revealing of one’s biases in a very unique way.

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    • PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      it’s pretty rich in history as a lot of famous (and not-so-famous) art can be; it tells you a lot about the people living during a period, what they thought about the world, how power worked etc.

      this is a very dismissive take on this form of art as a whole, and is the kind which really does help the techbros who think that this kind of work and effort could simple be replaced by machines

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Eh, I generally prefer paintings generated by an AI most of the time.

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    • mriormro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Truly, you are an idiot.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No u

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    • Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      By “expanding ones horizons”, do you literally mean increasing your wallet size? This is a very musk brained comment.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Huh? I don’t think Philosophy or History as I nentioned expands your wallet size, dafuxk?

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• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The AI one looks neat, but it lacks expression.

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  • ravhall@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It expresses to me.

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    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What does it express?

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