It was in one of his streams with Luke. I dont remember the exact one, I’m sorry.
So you have a source? I’ve watched his videos for awhile but I don’t remember hearing this take from him.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 1 week ago
It was on an episode of the WAN show a while back (I don’t know which, I stopped watching a while ago). He said if you’re not paying for the service or watching the Ads, it’s the same as Piracy because your not paying what’s owed.
futatorius@lemm.ee 1 week ago
If some hawker comes up to me and pushes a bunch of flowers in my face while I’m out walking, I’m not obligated to pay for smelling them. And if they’re sufficiently aggressive, they’re committing assault.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Which is incorrect, because Google itself went like 15 years without showing any ads at all to like 5% of their users.
SendMeHappyThings@reddthat.com 1 week ago
I watched this video before it was taken down. At the start of the YouTube section he says something along the lines of “I think ad block is theft, but you’re going to do it, so I have a responsibility to make sure you do it safely.”
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
My ass he cares if you do it safely.
His hypocrisy is 100% rooted in trying to pull views from the current controversy. Which I have no problem with, thats what youtubers do. They try to ride every wave and pull viewers from it.
I just take issue with the smug hypocrisy.
hanabatake@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
He talks about it in this video (the video this thread is about)
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 week ago
No, because that isn’t Linus’s take.
I think he’s referencing a stream once upon a time where Linus discussed the arguments around streaming and it’s impact on creators, from a creator’s perspective .
But because he uttered something in favor of ads on his videos-which is how they got paid-he’s now considered ultra pro invasive ads by the user above, who professes to not actually watching Linus
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 week ago
No, it was most definitely Linus’s take. Louis Rossman covered this a couple of years ago. Direct Linus quote from that Twitter thread:
Linus himself covers those Twitter comments, and defends them further, in this video.
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tb_@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I really don’t get the hate he got for that take.
Circumventing the method of payment could be argued as being a form of piracy. From that point of view, adblock is piracy.
Like them or not, YouTube is not a charity and requires the serving of ads to continue funding the service. You could argue about how they go about it, but it’s a fact they need some sort of income to continue to exist.
Same goes for YouTubers. They get a percentage of that ad revenue. And they also need some form of income.
But just because he said so doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand why adblock is used. He didn’t say “don’t use adblock.” He’s shown how to use adblock before and since. He’s also mentioned that buying something from their webshop gives them a lot more money than turning off adblock.
Saying “watching movies for free is pirating” isn’t the same as saying “you shouldn’t pirate movies”.
Using adblock isn’t engaging with YouTube on YouTube’s terms.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Adblocking isnt piracy, from any point of view.
Its protection. Protection from sudden loud noises and visual diarrhea. Protection from malware and viruses from random website ads, and protection from Right Wing Extremist Propaganda like PragerU videos detailing how the black man should be grateful for the history of slavery and oppression (which has had a documented, factual effect on driving people into right wing extremist behavior, and the violent rhetoric and actions that inevitably follow)
As long as all of that exists, Adblocking will never be piracy. Adblocking is, and will be, mandatory protection.
And if Linus, or anyone else, wants to clutch pearls and cry about adblocking… They can take their complaints to Google/Facebook/Other Ad services, because their lack of moderation and policing content on their services are directly responsible for creating the necessity for adblocking.
stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
And yet he never said not to adblock, so the only thing he claims are the categorization of adblocking.
AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
I’d argue this as well. I see it in a similar way. Linus is obviously not trying to sit on some high horse and condemn piracy, he’s just calling a spade a spade.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 week ago
In those tweets? Sure. But that’s not an argument I was making, so this is a strawman from you that doesn’t actually counter any of the evidence I have provided. Did Linus say ad-blocking was piracy? Yes. Did Linus say ad-blocking was theft? Yes.
Whether you think this is moral hypocrisy is irrelevant to me. I was only calling out the previous commenter who straight up lied about Linus’s history and then attempted to frame the people who were right as uninformed and wrong.