Comment on When EV startups shut down, will their cars still work?

• AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Absolutely, in that the more software in a vehicle the more likely it is to brick once a company folds. ICE cars are less likely since they don’t have most of the software, but there are some that are computers on wheels still (and I’m sure the amount will continue to increase).

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  • UsernameHere@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ICE vehicles have more software because they have more components. They have a transmission control module and an engine control module both of which have a lot of sensors to read and outputs to control. Much more than a simple EV would have.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In my experience (mostly as a hobbyist and not in cars), embedded systems software (i.e. running in microcontrollers) is way smaller than the kind of stuff running in entertainment systems which require the power of microprocessors.

      It’s pretty much an entirelly different class of software and even the libraries used are done with entirelly different primary objectives (generally small size is more important than just about everything else in the embedded system world).

      ICE cars will have more microcontrollers (all communicating with each other via CAN), but the sofware within most of them is something that fits a few tens of KB of memory, whilst the software managing the used interface even if the screen is only 1024x768 (which looks like crap even compared to the cheapest of smartphones), will be tens of hundreds of megas worth of code + data.

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      • UsernameHere@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Right but both EVs and ICE vehicles have infotainment systems. ICE vehicles have more components that require software in addition to that.

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• NarrativeBear@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Maybe just in terms of their electronics, such as updates and extended services.

  I do wonder if things like heated seat subscription in EV’s and ICE car’s will keep functioning after the company disappears.

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  • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Seems like that is ripe for a class action. If a piece of hardware ceases to function if you don’t pay a fee but then the ability to pay is denied or removed the hardware should default to functioning. Come on EU, this is right up your alley, let’s get some laws made over there so us lowly Americans can benefit!

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  • Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Probably not. But that’s what happens when you buy Things as a Service.

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• ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah they’ll likely end up melting once global temperatures rise high enough.

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