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@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂

Why should it be replaced?

This might be because some people avoid Bootstrap like the devil avoids holy water... You can understand that, but you don't have to.

@Mario Vavti

The decision if SSE or traditional polling is used is made in the admin->site settings.

Could you please tell us something about the warning there?

Warning: this setting might not be suited for shared hosting

@Mario Vavti Yes, I think so as well.

Let me think about a configuration option. But would you ever accept such an extension at all?

@Hubzilla Support Forum

Conclusion

• It works only if the SSE plugin is enabled.
• It works only if unseen network activities are enabled.
• Only starters trigger a notification; comments, etc. are ignored.
• I read something with "only one browser tab open"...

For me this is an unrealistic scenario, as I usually have multiple browser windows with multiple tabs open, and I'm also interested in incoming comments on my threads. Therefore, for me this case can be closed.

Thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread. Have a nice evening.

Over and out.

@Stefan Hay Fidelity Yes, here it works only with the plugin enabled.

@Mario Vavti Do you mean that "grant permission" link? Then yes.

@Mario Vavti Nope, no difference.

I have also tested on my second Hubzilla account on hubzilla.de. Same result, no notifications.

Are there any Hubzilla settings to tweak?

@Mario Vavti Thanks. I'll give it a try.

@Mario Vavti Wow, one more thing I don't understand. :winking_face:

@Mario Vavti Then someone else's starter post in this forum should trigger a notification, right? But it doesn't.  And it also doesn't notify starts of new private conversations.

@Mario Vavti

they only notify about toplevels

I understand. But to verify here, what is meant by "top levels"? New posts?

@*_jߍyrope Wow, that sounds horrible. I'd leave from there ASAP.

@*_jߍyrope No, the browser allows them, and it works well with other sites.

@*_jߍyrope

I don't think, that it futureproof.

Out of curiosity: do you consider switching to non-shared hosting or prefer to continue with shared hosting?

@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ No, but very interesting. I'll take a more profound look.

@𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼

are there any open source systems around for that kind of tasks ?

I saw one far in the past; unfortunately, I don't remember its name.

You're right about the expensive licenses. But if we write a plugin for some of the admin desk programs, we still need acceptance for installation by the hosters. Here I see some dark clouds.

@𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼 Well, I can imagine well...
But I still think learning is the best way to get something, far better than getting it cooked.

@*_jߍyrope I don't know cPanel in detail, but I think you can do many of the usual admin tasks there. So nothing against that.

@Harald Eilertsen

Perhaps making some sort of cpanel-integration would be a good investment.

Installing Hubzilla is so simple that I doubt that it's worth the effort.

@𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼 Write an appropriate shell script and add it to your crontab. Everyday admin jobs. I cannot explain it deeper in detail here.

@𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼

But how to automat the creation oft the SQL dump ?

?? It's done by mysqldump from within the backup function. Automation can be done by using a cron job. Or do you refer to something else?

@𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼 Saving the directory and associated SQL dump doesn't require an extra tool.

backup() {
    ssh -T $HOST << EOF
    tar -C $APPDIR_REMOTE -czf archive/$ARCHIVE.tar.gz
    mysqldump -h 127.0.0.1 $DBNAME > archive/$ARCHIVE.sql
    gzip -f archive/$ARCHIVE.sql
    find archive/ -type f -name "${PREFIX}*.gz" -mtime +$DAYS -delete
EOF
    scp $HOST:/archive/$ARCHIVE.* .
}

@𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼

How to manage Buckups on a shared host ?
How do you backup the DB ?

Using a self-made shell script.

@*_jߍyrope

where's the need to rustify this coming from at all?

Well, there is absolutely no need. But some folks think that every piece of software created with C has to be rewritten with Rust.

@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ Thanks. I'll patch my two hubs with this. Just to be able to continue.

@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ Yes, $filename should work.