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@chronicledmonocle @irmadlad The irony is that when Ubuntu was created in '04, one of the first features they worked on (after the initial 4.10 release) was fast booting. Debian at the time used sysvinit and booted pretty slowly. And in addition, long-term support.

Those things eventually made their way into Debian through various means; I haven't messed with Ubuntu in years, but it's very amusing to me to hear that Debian might boot faster than Ubuntu.

@wilo108 @Cyber For your kids' friends, are you using a web interface like movim or something? Or are they installing their own clients?

@anakin78z I still have to use Matrix for work. The clients suck (literally every single one I've tried, and I even briefly maintained Neochat for debian) and I routinely get key errors.

@anakin78z We use xmpp (prosody on the server; a mix of conversations/cheogram/dino/snikket on our phones and laptops). We've got a family chat where the kids share the latest memes, and we message back and forth. We do also have signal (or in my case, Molly) installed, but don't use it that much. My wife just switched phones and signal was unable to transfer stuff from phone phone to the other - in general I find signal annoying to use.

@PabloSexcrowbar @anon_8675309 When my bank _doesn't_ allow check deposits via website, I will switch banks. Ain't installing a stupid app for a _bank_ of all things, and why would I bank from a device that I could accidentally lose at the grocery store?

@DosDude @NotEasyBeingGreen The fun thing about this whole saga is that there's linux phone stack stuff that's been completely neglected for the past ~15 years that we're now having to bring back to functionality because of projects taking up pieces of maemo/meego.

@exu I think it's new!

@exu You can also add a password to the Listen section for that; though I haven't personally messed around with that feature.

@exu @gedaliyah fyi, yggdrasil supports a shared password. So while by default yggdrasil nodes on the same network will automatically find each other (via multicast) and form a single yggdrasil network, you can ensure only certain nodes connect to each other by setting the same password on each of them.

@Mordikan @Maroon A lot of people _don't know what their ISP does_. Many seem to think that the ISP is selling them the entire internet as a product, and so from that logic why shouldn't the ISP be liable for whatever mayhem they get into online?

Source: worked for a little while as dial-up ISP support.

@eleijeep @eyesaremosaics That's good to know, because I find it quite annoying that restic is designed to back up from client -> server. I initially tried setting it up from the server side, but it didn't work very well.

@somegeek @jobbies This is a good read. I was rather amused by your "TODO: How to use Git offline? Offline merge requests?" section, though. Git was written by people who literally email each other patches. It's offline-first, with online stuff tacked on there. You can copy a cloned git repo to a usb stick and give it to someone, and now they have the entire history. Of course merge requests and bug tracking are separate (I understand what you meant w/ the TODO), but git itself is already there.

@h333d @Holytimes Oh no, I write the same way! I can't wait to be accused of being an AI the next time I publish something. 😂

@rimu @Dust0741 Also, even if openwrt stops supporting it.. If you have a router or firewall or something in front of your access point, then running an old version of openwrt isn't really that much of a risk if we're talking about residential wifi w/out a lot of coverage.

And that's assuming you'd want to stick with a model that openwrt has dropped support for. If they do drop support in a few years, you could buy a newer (better supported) older model again for $40.

@kiol Syncthing? Restic? All packaged nicely in Debian, no need for containers. I do use Ansible (rather than backups) for ensuring if a drive dies, I can reproduce the configuration. That's still very much a work-in-progress though, as there's stuff I set up before I started using Ansible...

@kiol And then there's the stuff that's not packaged in Debian, like navidrome. I use a container for that for simplicity, and because if it breaks it's not a big deal - temporary downtime of email is bad, temporary downtime of my streaming flac server means I just re-listen to the stuff that my subsonic clients have cached locally.

@kiol On the other hand, for doing builds (debian packages and random other stuff), I'll use podman containers. I've got a self-built build environment that I trust (debootstrap'd), and it's pretty simple to create a new build env container for some package, and wipe it when it gets too messy over time and create a new one. And for building larger packages I've got ccache, which doesn't get wiped by each different build; I've got multiple chromium build containers w/ ccache, llvm build env, etc

@kiol I mean, I use both. If something has a Debian package and is well-maintained, I'll happily use that. For example, prosody is packaged nicely, there's no need for a container there. I also don't want to upgrade to the latest version all the time. Or Dovecot, which just had a nasty cache bug in the latest version that allows people to view other peoples' mailboxes. Since I'm still on Debian 12 on my mail server, I remain unaffected and I can let the bugs be shaken out before I upgrade.

@MimicJar @moseschrute *touches finger to earpiece*

...hang on, I'm getting word that the most recent edition of this book will crash your nvram's firmware